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India, Once a Coal Goliath, Is Fast Turning Green

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Re: India, Once a Coal Goliath, Is Fast Turning Green

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Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #61

I wonder why NYT conveniently chose to ignore the previous US administration's WTO complaint on India's local component requirements for solar panels and it's subsequent verdict against India. India required US solar panel manufacturers to source cells from locally, which was challenged by US in WTO and subsequently awarded in it's favour. So it's not just India is moving forward with green energy in spite of 'unfair…

They didn't ignore it. It's just irrelevant to the current topic at hand.

India and quite a number of other countries e.g. China play this game all the time with industries. Look at what Apple went through for example to establish a presence in India.

Re: India, Once a Coal Goliath, Is Fast Turning Green

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xrange wrote: post #22

Anyone know more about India's nuclear story? At one time they were focusing on thorium. I wonder what we could do to spur on a little more competition with China. http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/current-and...

Nuclear power is such a mess though.

There's the political logistics of getting the fuel, figuring out how and where to dispose of the fuel, the NIMBY problem with plant locations and the fact that in general its politically very unpopular.

Re: India, Once a Coal Goliath, Is Fast Turning Green

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Post by jakob223 »

markaius wrote: post #100

I know this is completely beyond the topic, and only relevant in regards to the website, but, as someone who has been convulsively clicking text while reading articles his whole life, this site design is absolute garbage. When i double click text I do not expect the site to interact. Double click in my world is known for highlighting. Not increasing font size. Sorry, end rant.

I agree about how the site should act, but in my browser (chrome on mac), it does act the right way.

Re: India, Once a Coal Goliath, Is Fast Turning Green

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Post by sonink »

pvsukale3 wrote: post #87

I am a young Indian. I have a dream . The dream that we are running electric vehicles. We have banned plastic everywhere. We have stopped burning our garbage. We have improved air quality. I think we can start with auto-rikshaws and public transport. Auto rickshaw constitute to a lot of traffic and pollution in the cities. We could replace them with smart electric ones. They move around only in cities so it won't be…

Auto-rickshaws are already ALL electric in some cities. Haridwar for one.

Re: India, Once a Coal Goliath, Is Fast Turning Green

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jklinger410 wrote: post #74

This seems precisely timed considering how Trump backed out of the Paris agreements partially because India was allowed to build MORE coal.

Of course India was allowed to use more coal. Paris is a voluntary agreement.

India, like all countries, can do whatever on earth they want. Just like Trump could've stayed in the agreement, behind the scenes done absolutely nothing for the environment (like he is now) and there would've been a lot less criticism.

The fact he didn't choose this option tells you everything. It was a political decision only.

Re: India, Once a Coal Goliath, Is Fast Turning Green

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Post by pkaye »

fellellor wrote: post #52
pkaye wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For one, health issues related to air quality have no basis on per capita pollution.

But air quality degeneration does have a lot of basis on per capita pollution. The per capita argument was good enough to set the tone at Paris, for an agreement between all the nations on this planet. The argument against per capita pollution contribution is just willful ignorance. Besides, none of you have even bothered to look at the figures. India's current coal consumption is less than 30% of the US, for a popul…

> But air quality degeneration does have a lot of basis on per capita pollution.

Can you explain to me how this works?

Re: India, Once a Coal Goliath, Is Fast Turning Green

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matt4077 wrote: post #88
jklinger410 wrote: post #74

This seems precisely timed considering how Trump backed out of the Paris agreements partially because India was allowed to build MORE coal.

There are two reasons why Trump backed out: (a) he enjoys the look of horror on conscientious' peoples' faces, and (b) it was the only quick "win" with his hardcore supporters that was available. It's disingenuous to insist that India should lower their power consumption, considering they currently consume only 1/15 as much as the US per capita: http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EG.USE.ELEC.KH.PC?contex...

> it was the only quick "win" with his hardcore supporters that was available

Surprised this isn't being covered more.

This decision is basically it for Trump supporters for the rest of his term. Everything else e.g. the wall, infrastructure spending, budget cuts, repeal Obamacare etc. all require Congress who will never have the votes to pass anything in both Senate and House.

When you think about it he almost for political reasons had to pull out.

Re: India, Once a Coal Goliath, Is Fast Turning Green

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Post by xrange »

threeseed wrote: post #102
xrange wrote: post #22

Anyone know more about India's nuclear story? At one time they were focusing on thorium. I wonder what we could do to spur on a little more competition with China. http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/current-and...

Nuclear power is such a mess though. There's the political logistics of getting the fuel, figuring out how and where to dispose of the fuel, the NIMBY problem with plant locations and the fact that in general its politically very unpopular.

That sounds like it is true for western countries, but China has a lot of nuclear power coming online, and what are the attitudes in India?

Re: India, Once a Coal Goliath, Is Fast Turning Green

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Post by markaius »

jakob223 wrote: post #103
markaius wrote: post #100

I know this is completely beyond the topic, and only relevant in regards to the website, but, as someone who has been convulsively clicking text while reading articles his whole life, this site design is absolute garbage. When i double click text I do not expect the site to interact. Double click in my world is known for highlighting. Not increasing font size. Sorry, end rant.

I agree about how the site should act, but in my browser (chrome on mac), it does act the right way.

Interesting, I'm using chrome on windows. One thing I also dislike, if I may keep ranting to the internet, is how much windows has fucked with their windowing system in W10. For example: I'd be playing a game and something would cause the game to hang. It happens. But in windows 10 I couldn't even alt-tab because the focus would never leave the hanging 3d area. Couldn't control + alt + delete. Couldn't Windows key + tab, or alt + tab. Couldn't ctrl + shift + esc. Just had to hold the power button down. May I ask you: when was the last time you had to hold the power button down on your mac?

Re: India, Once a Coal Goliath, Is Fast Turning Green

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Post by akg_67 »

djohnston wrote: post #82
greglindahl wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Different countries have different interest rates. While most developed countries have both inflation rates and bank deposit rates close to zero, there are a few countries with high inflation and high interest rates.

Arbitrage opportunity?

Changes in foreign exchange rates usually arbitrage out most interest rate disparities.
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