Earlier quoted context omitted.
Shouldn't you multiply by your specific click through rate? For many people, this is 0.
Indeed. I'm almost 30 and I don't think I've ever clicked on an ad in my life. Cost per impression seems more relevant.
Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web
171–180 of 269 posts
Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web
#172Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web
#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not exactly like torrenting music, but a bit (requires some tech skills, ambiguous morality) And at least in my circle of friends, Spotify pretty much killed that.
even assuming 100% buy-in for content providers for google pass as an ad replacement, it doesn't replace all the use cases of a decent ad-blocker (like ublock origin). For me, I block newrelic, google analytics, segment, and a whole bunch of non-advertising related sites that slow down the web. Doing this more than halves the load time and download requirements of just about any major site.
Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web
#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
The trouble with Brave's approach is that it removes the user's choice of browsers.
I can only assume this forces you to use Chrome, so it has the same issue.
*Most relevant demographics
Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web
#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Any payments to avoid ads served by these companies would require compensating all of these companies I think you misunderstood how this iteration of Contributor would work; the publisher integrates Google's contributor code in such a way that if you pay them, they don't show you any ads, no need to worry about the ad ecosystem. > People want to maintain their privacy I will start believing this when people start a…
> I think you misunderstood how this iteration of Contributor would work No, I understand perfectly well how it works. If you pay Google, then Google doesn't show you ads and it gives the Content Creator a cut. Google is part of the Ad ecosystem. Contributor not only excludes other Ad providers from participating, it also requires the Content Creator to sign up to Google's Ad ecosystem. And Google is still gathering…
I don't think there has been any indication of this one way or another, and I'd be sort of surprised if this is the tack they're taking.
We'll see how it turns out, but it doesn't sound (to me) like they are compelling companies to show Google ads, merely providing the paywall technology.
> You know god damn well this system won't work with uBlock or any other 3rd Party Ad Blocker.
I think the entire point is to get people using uBlock etc to either turn it off or to pay, so I have no idea where you're getting this idea from.
Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web
#176If this was more like Youtube Red, I'd be all over this. I would love to pay to remove all google ads. I get that uBlock exists, but I want to support the sites I use.
Unrelated: the sidenav thing is empty? WTF?
Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web
#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
The trouble with Brave's approach is that it removes the user's choice of browsers.
I can only assume this forces you to use Chrome, so it has the same issue.
Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web
#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
>A model like this is necessary to support quality content online. It's totally not. People essentially enjoy creating and sharing, and love putting up quality content about things they truly give a shit about. The internet was built on people writing massive forums posts about completely stripping down Kawasaki motorbike engines, and hosting their own websites where they ramble about conditional probability. Wikiped…
Not all quality content can be produced in spare time as a labour of love. High quality journalism, for example.
Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web
#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
If the time taken to read the buzzfeed article is the same as the high quality report, it is worth the same to an advertiser. The high quality report does good for the organization in terms of retention, a reader is likely to come back and read it if he finds good content.
Market segmentation also routinely leads some advertisers to target the kind of people who prefer high quality reporting. Economist vs Daily Mail, as an analogy.
Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web
#180I've been participating in Google Contributor since it's inception, this is like the 3rd relaunch of the service. I have no doubt it will fail just like the past iterations because the fundamental flaw is that Google is the heart of the system and they're unwilling to extricate themselves from it. I don't think this type of service is the way forward and the solution will not come from Google or any other ad provider…
This always saddens and upsets me that "movie studio accounting" even exists in the first place. I would be loathe to support a model that could devolve to this.