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Qualcomm, Microsoft Announce Snapdragon 835 PCs with Gigabit LTE

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> With a Snapdragon inside your PC, you'll no longer need Wi-Fi to fetch your latest e-mail and catch up on Twitter. Instead, you'll be able to get online wherever there's cellular connectivity. I'm not buying the optimism, especially not in the US. The cellular data is still horribly limited. In Canada it is even worse. The "unlimited" plan is surging back, but it has automatic throttling at varying points. Oh and s…

Three years ago, our local Spanish operator Movistar deployed the 4G mobile network and started offering an impressive 75 Mbps download speed and 25 Mbps upload speed. At that point, the largest data plan you could get from them was 1 Gb per month (now I think you can get 2 or 3 Gb, not more). This meant that if you used the connection to its capacity, you would hit the monthly cap in around 1 minute 50 seconds. With…

For most people once their connection is fast enough that any given thing they try to do is not noticeably annoying due to slow download speed, their download speed and their monthly data usage are largely independent.

For example, over the 12-17 years I've had Comcast they increased my download speed from 8 mb/sec to 20 mb/sec, then to somewhere around 40 mb/sec, then to 60 mb/sec, then to 90 mb/sec, and now it is at 120 mb/sec.

I don't remember what my monthly usage was back when it was at 8 mb/sec, but from 40 mb/sec onward, and I think maybe at 20 mb/sec, my monthly usage has stayed about the same, varying between 20 to 40 GB/month.

I've always appreciated the faster speed, even though I don't use it to download more. I appreciate it because it means it takes less time to download. For instance, if I'm working at home and realize I need a big file from work to continue it might be 5 minutes to download at 120 mb/sec. It would have been 30 minutes at 20 mb/sec. The former means I can grab it while I take a bathroom break and a refill on my water, with almost no disruption to my work day. The later means a big disruption.

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I've had ads on Windows lock screen ("Get fun facts, tips, tricks and more on your lock screen"). I was fairly sure I had turned this off, and it was weeks before I saw an ad (replacing Spotlight background), but once I did see an ad, I wrote my own program to set the lock screen background and stayed well away from the MS Spotlight. Spotlight itself is an ad for Edge; if you want more information on the photo, it'll…

One of the most despised things, for me? In Edge, Cortana popping up, when I go to the driver download site for my laptop, "Can I interest you in a coupon?". "No, you can't. Fuck off." Excuse the language.

You can disable Cortana

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Shim is signed with microsoft key, does it still require custom mode for booting?

Yes. Shim requires that your kernel is also signed, and also disables support for kernel modules.

And this shows why forcing that in shim was a bad idea. They should have made a version breaking the chain, and allowing to boot unsigned kernel.

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Notice they said, email and twitter. Both are things that don't use much data. They already know that AT&T and Verizon will choke the crap out of this with their false limitations.

Twitter uses a lot of data these days with autoplaying GIFs and videos...

Pretty sure you can disable those.

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"Disabling Secure Boot must not be possible on ARM systems." #20 in https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/com... Digital restrictions management lockdowns prevent installing Linux.

There's nothing to stop any company from making its own laptops with ARM processors, designing them to run Linux, and pre-installing Linux. You could do it yourself. Maybe this is your chance to become rich and famous. Not sure why your first thought is to ride on the back of Microsoft's work...

Having access to a large target market gives you advantageous pricing negotiation and support from SoC designers, board manufacturers, etc.

Sure, you could create a brand new electronics brand and try to market it. But it would be super expensive and take a long time to get off the ground.

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Asus, HP, and Lenovo are all planning to introduce Snapdragon Mobile PC systems at some unspecified time in the future, for some unspecified price. In other news, today at the Vaporware Expo every computer manufacturer announced plans to release a new device featuring unspecified hardware at some unspecified time in the future for an unspecified price.

Yeah, yawn, I've been reading this every month for the past 18 months. Tell me where and when I can buy something.

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Developers will abuse this ability and average iPhone will be filled with apps constantly uploading usage data and downloading meaningless updates, significantly reducing battery life and performance. Apple should just have some kind of API for background uploads. I know, that API for background HTTP downloads exists.

No. There are many other cases where "background upload" isn't enough. Like Fitness Tracker apps, that want to sync your Tracker with iOS Health in the background. There must be a more general solution.

My Garmin sports watch syncs via Bluetooth and uploads to their website in the background. What more do they need beyond this for your application? Is there a particular limitation that it can't update Apple Health in the same background operation?

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There's no downside to having this as an option, I just wonder if this feature will drive any consumer demand.

Consider how annoyed people have been at the Apple dongle situation. Sure they'll grunt through it but they want something better and less complicated. To the HN crowd, a phone tied to a computer to access all of the world's information is a large bit of genius (I used to dream about it when I was a kid... before everybody had cellphones), but to most users its just another thing dangling about that they have to conn…

> Consider how annoyed people have been at the Apple dongle situation.

Do you mean the USB-C with the gazillion required adapters or new cables?

It's relevant you bring up Apple, because if you have a MacBook and an iPhone, and pair it via Bluetooth, the a tethering option shows up in your WiFi menu that you can easily select, same as any other WiFi network.

The advantage of it being an easy, yet manual process is that you can't accidentally use it and blow through your data. I do wish they would go the extra step and build "limit what you do because you're on a metered connection" support into macOS.

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If SD835 is put in PCs the performance is going to be abysmal due to x86 emulation layer. Consequently, the price of the devices is going to be low, most likely in the same range as low end Pentium and Atom laptops/convertibles.

The same chip with lower performance (due to power considerations) in high end phones costing upwards of $600-900, makes it an interesting gambit.

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