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Re: Chrome Won

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Post by madeofpalk »

aerovistae wrote: post #261
kalleboo wrote: post #134

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What do you expect people to be doing on the train? Contributing to emacs?

Well, personally I read books. I think I learn more and remember more from the books than I or they do from social media feeds, which I think are a lot like putting your mind on hibernate to get from point A to point B in a temporal sense. I don't ask that everyone read books, god forbid, but it would be nice if people weren't using their phones to put themselves into hibernate nearly all of the time. The phrasing of…

> Well, personally I read books

> I just wish people would engage more.

Some people loose themselves in their phone, others loose themselves into a book.

They're both the same.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by hl5 »

hl5 wrote: post #80

how awesome would it be if mozilla forked chromium?

i guess it's more awesome to have a bunch of talented developers working on a dead product :/

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by madeofpalk »

aerovistae wrote: post #264
fasquoika wrote: post #222

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No, he expects them to comment on HN - a proper, respectable website - unlike that Facebook thing the plebs seem so interested in. /s

No, I don't. I will concede that I believe there's vastly more to learn from HN than from a social media feed, and I will "concede" that I believe your time is better spent on something educational than something solitary and mildly amusing that just idly passes the time and is then forgotten. But I do not seek to force that perspective on anyone. I just wish people didn't ignore the world all the time in favor of ca…

They're on the same train ride into work for the 600th time. There's only so much of that same part of the world you can pay attention to.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by yuhong »

sp332 wrote: post #386
imron wrote: post #295

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So you think the telemetry is not going to help with things like this? https://www.extremetech.com/computing/245553-microsoft-now-p...

They seem to have sent that to everyone, so there's no targeting, and telemetry won't make a difference.

And even if it did it would be probably separate from for example SQM.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by bitexploder »

Paul-ish wrote: post #428
bitexploder wrote: post #360

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About fighting for our privacy and 'someone' has to do it. >> We really need someone to fight for our privacy and neutrality. And I really believe that this could be Mozilla's swan song. I deeply care about privacy. I fight for privacy. I work in information security. Every day I help my customers write code a little more securely. I educate them about implementing end to end encrypted communication systems. I am slo…

I'm curious, why is quitting MacBooks good for privacy? I know a lot of people who say Apple may be bad for having a walled garden, but that they are great for privacy. That Apple's business model is selling hardware, not your secrets.

MacOS integrating Siri is just another piece of the trend of private data hoovering. Along with routing people much harder into iCloud with Sierra. It felt invasive for the first time and I abandoned ship. The walked garden and SIP also reduce my ability to control my privacy and my own computer (I know SIP can be disabled, but it is a real pain)

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by steveklabnik »

vatotemking wrote: post #526
pcwalton wrote: post #405

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I'd be more than willing to hear your technical thoughts as to why the features I mentioned are not "100% proven better" than the status quo. From my point of view, having measured this stuff over and over again for years, it's undeniable that they result in wins. The remaining bugs are features at the margins and will not affect the overall results. You seem confident, so I'm sure you have specific technical reasons…

> Doing nothing is an even bigger risk. True. But Mozilla is betting on servo which I see as a big question mark as well. Are you sure that people will download firefox over chrome when servo lands? How long before it will finally ship? 1, 2 years? Was there a market research before hand? Like I said its a big question mark. Cant blame me if I have doubts after Firefox OS. > I don't understand why "you shouldn't even…

> Are you sure that people will download firefox over chrome when servo lands? How long before it will finally ship?

Bits have already landed, and another major piece is being worked on right now. That's the whole idea of Quantum; no need to wait till Servo is done for Firefox users to start seeing benefit.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by Aaronn »

eeZah7Ux wrote: post #365
codazoda wrote: post #211

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Like Google Hangouts?

And Signal Private Messenger

Even though Firefox is now supporting the same WebExtentions API that powers Chrome extensions, Open Whisper Systems refuses to support Firefox, see https://github.com/WhisperSystems/Signal-Desktop/pull/592#is....

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by themihai »

majewsky wrote: post #282
themihai wrote: post #272

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Firefox sends the DOM hashes to Google just like Chrome.

Can you explain this? I've never heard of "DOM hashes" before.

It's named client side detection and it sends the DOM model(actually hashes of it) to Google. I found about it on HN too. Obviously you may check FF/Chrome source too. I would love to be proven wrong. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5971403

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by themihai »

acqq wrote: post #371
majewsky wrote: post #282

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Can you explain this? I've never heard of "DOM hashes" before.

Not "DOM" but a hashes of the URL or a part of it, to check if the domain or URL is "safe." Also downloads are checked. And AFAIK it's more nuanced, there's also a database that can be checked and allow "offline" checks. But it would still be interesting to find one independent serious analysis of the behavior.

Actually it sends the DOM model too. It's named client side detection. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5971403

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by themihai »

st3fan wrote: post #286
themihai wrote: post #272

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Firefox sends the DOM hashes to Google just like Chrome.

Can you please explain this in more detail? Ideally with an example request that you see? (I highly doubt that there is any truth to this claim)

I think you can check the source https://cs.chromium.org/chromium/src/chrome/browser/safe_bro... Long story short it sends the DOM "model" including links, input names etc. There was a story on HN about this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5971403
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