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Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison

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Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison

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How is Musk going to pull the M.3 out of the Silicon Valley limelight? It has a car image for those types of people rather than for regular honest hard-working folk. At the same time he has to sell the Model S to pull in profits. His other problem is, the number of people who can afford the Model S is shrinking while the wealth gap continually increases... even if he leaves the pricing static, which is why he needs the Model 3. The Model S looks like more like a car for "wall street lackeys", yuppies and hipsters. Even worse, it looks like a car made specifically for silicon valley and US' middle and upper management. Now you know what the Model 3 looks like...

The gutsy move was to leave himself exposed in that market, while no one made a move... but does he want to move his elitist image? Sure that kind of image works to sell it in Norway, Scandinavia, and the US' wealthy class... but he has to fashion his company into a socialist type of entity dependent on the government just like the big three.

Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison

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I'm really interested in the topspeed. For german customers all the current gen EVs(Bolt/i3/Leaf/Ioniq) with a topspeed of 140-150km/h are to my opinion not really save to drive on the Autobahn as you don't have some speed buffer to overtake someone who's driving 120-130km/h fast enough. If Tesla manages to give the Model 3 a top-speed of 200km/h that would be a game-changer and make it a viable car for me. The Model…

been safely driving a van with 140km/h top-speed on the autobahn just fine for years - there might be a correlation between the maximum speed of a car and the owners inability to drive safely, but the explanation is probably more a psychological than a technical one ..

your mindset is quite common among german car makers though, maybe the reason they are unable to offer competitive answers to a technologically rather boring challenge - bringing down the price for electronic vehicles by mass production

Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison

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I'm really interested in the topspeed. For german customers all the current gen EVs(Bolt/i3/Leaf/Ioniq) with a topspeed of 140-150km/h are to my opinion not really save to drive on the Autobahn as you don't have some speed buffer to overtake someone who's driving 120-130km/h fast enough. If Tesla manages to give the Model 3 a top-speed of 200km/h that would be a game-changer and make it a viable car for me. The Model…

Do you really need to overtake someone doing 130 km?

Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison

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post #23

I'm really interested in the topspeed. For german customers all the current gen EVs(Bolt/i3/Leaf/Ioniq) with a topspeed of 140-150km/h are to my opinion not really save to drive on the Autobahn as you don't have some speed buffer to overtake someone who's driving 120-130km/h fast enough. If Tesla manages to give the Model 3 a top-speed of 200km/h that would be a game-changer and make it a viable car for me. The Model…

Do you really need to overtake someone doing 130 km?

On the Autobahn.. Yes.

Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you really need to overtake someone doing 130 km?

On the Autobahn.. Yes.

Why?

Do you have a limited amount of time you can stay in the autobahn as opposed to a French or Spanish motorway, forcing you to speed up?

Or is it that you just want to go 200Km/h and it's not about overtaking safely?

Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison

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post #3

I will happily be wrong about this, but isn't a lead time of a year for a "mass market" vehicle a bit of an ask. Last time I bought a car the "lead time" was a week.

I bought a car 2 months ago, and if you wanted to change even the simpler thing the delivery time went to 1+ month. This was for the best selling brand of cars in Spain that delivers almost 500.000 cars a year.

Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison

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post #23

I'm really interested in the topspeed. For german customers all the current gen EVs(Bolt/i3/Leaf/Ioniq) with a topspeed of 140-150km/h are to my opinion not really save to drive on the Autobahn as you don't have some speed buffer to overtake someone who's driving 120-130km/h fast enough. If Tesla manages to give the Model 3 a top-speed of 200km/h that would be a game-changer and make it a viable car for me. The Model…

Do you really need to overtake someone doing 130 km?

No, at least not for me: My plan is buying the Model 3 and then engaging the autopilot in such a case - and just travel behind whoever is driving with 130 km/h in front of me.

So for me - a reliable autopilot for the Autobahn is much more important than the top speed.

Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison

#29
I couldn't stop feeling like this page is nothing else but a promotion for "Model S" which is "superior and now" rather than the other car which is "inferior and 1 year later". Price would've been the biggest (and only) reason for "Model 3" but it's not shown on the page. Added extra details for "Model 3" is a nice trick to boost virality of the promotion aimed at its target audience -- potential Model 3 buyers. Well done, Tesla marketing. Well done.

Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison

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post #9

The salient difference is the free use of supercharger for Model S.

Depends on how many long trips you will realistically take. With my Leaf we charge it at home 95% of the time or more. Even though there are free chargers available to us in our area, it's not worth using them. Charging at home happens while the car is in the garage overnight and it's super cheap, so going at all out of my way to use a free public charger is not worth it. We basically only use them when they are in parking lots we were already going to park in.
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