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1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by netsharc »

safeharbourio wrote: post #386
teekert wrote: post #382

I use Linux. I'm convinced that if I put a small Windows partition up (or another Linux install) and make grub boot into it automatically (with little delay) no one would ever notice. Does any one know if they check for multiple partitions at all? And Android can have multiple users, can you set up a new user and boot into that one automatically?

well, with some experience, border guards will learn to spot a non-ntfs partition, that windows dutyfully reports as unformated/blablah space, so that will eventually be caught, dont rely on this to actually protect you, its more of a sleigh of hand that may be easily spotted by the right guard.

Time to write one's own filesystem driver, that either hides this info or shows the disk as fully partitioned but empty NTFS partition, and when something tries to write onto it, throws a failure (so you can have e.g. 10 MB at the very front of the partition free, and the rest looks empty, but actually contains your Linux system)

Another hack would be one's own BIOS, that lies to Windows saying "This disk is 100 GB", but given the correct unlock signal, will admit to the OS "this disk is 500 GB big".

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by JonoBB »

xg15 wrote: post #396
URSpider94 wrote: post #361

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you read the article, there is no "tell" that 1Password is in Travel Mode. The only impact is that most of your passwords are missing from the password vault, but the agent would have no way of knowing what's missing. It's not like it pops up a big "Travel Mode" banner.

That's the part I didn't get thought. If there is no way to tell then how exactly do you turn it off? (At some point, you want to turn it off after all) If there is any kind of setting that lets you control travel mode, border control could just make it standard procedure to change that setting.

You can only change that setting by logging into their website. The setting is not available in the app itself.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by Udo_Schmitz »

djsumdog wrote: post #247
specialist wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eeyore / South Park style cyncism actively forments apathy. Self-fulfiling prophesy. Counterpoint: My friends and associates do amazing things. Marriage equality, marijuana legalization, DREAM Act, etc, etc. I (a yeoman) also do what I can. Maybe think of politics, society, culture like thermodynamics: Organization requires continuous effort, to mitigate entropy.

Keep in mind Marriage Equality in America came via the supreme court, not legislation (unlike New Zealand, Canada, et. al.) I'm not saying people shouldn't be active. Groups like The Anti-Corruption Act ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhe286ky-9A ) are doing a lot, not to mention the group that pushed Maine's ranked voting amendment. But the vote itself is not very useful. There are other forms of activism that are…

> Keep in mind Marriage Equality in America came via the supreme court, not legislation […] But the vote itself is not very useful.

Liberal supreme court judges do not materialize out of thin air, do they?

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by staticelf »

lacampbell wrote: post #350
faragon wrote: post #282

TL;DR: Just avoid traveling to the USA. P.S. I love the USA, don't get me wrong. I hope some day the madness on the borders gets less paranoid.

And the UK. And New Zealand. And I believe Canada. And...

And definately Australia and China.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by Tepix »

struppi wrote: post #397
davidp wrote: post #394

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. Civil disobedience, unsurprisingly, includes breaking the law.

Yes. If you are a US citizen. If you are not, this can mean waiting for the next pane back in handcuffs and being banned from entering the US for life.

Why go there in the first place? Doesn't sound very appealing.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by yAnonymous »

alexpw wrote: post #328

If you are refusing to enter the password, access to the device, or to disable travel mode, then good luck to you. IANAL, but the border agent doesn't care if the data is technically in the cloud, rather than on the device, because it restores when you unlock it. In addition to removing the data from the device, cheers, don't you also need to be able to honestly say you can not provide access to it? Ways to honestly…

>border agent doesn't care if the data is technically in the cloud, rather than on the device, because it restores when you unlock it.

Do they provide wifi for that? I doubt it.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by cm2187 »

URSpider94 wrote: post #361
alexpw wrote: post #328

If you are refusing to enter the password, access to the device, or to disable travel mode, then good luck to you. IANAL, but the border agent doesn't care if the data is technically in the cloud, rather than on the device, because it restores when you unlock it. In addition to removing the data from the device, cheers, don't you also need to be able to honestly say you can not provide access to it? Ways to honestly…

If you read the article, there is no "tell" that 1Password is in Travel Mode. The only impact is that most of your passwords are missing from the password vault, but the agent would have no way of knowing what's missing. It's not like it pops up a big "Travel Mode" banner.

Customs read these articles just like us. What if they ask you if travel mode is turned on? Will you lie?

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by sneak »

techsupporter wrote: post #381
veidr wrote: post #368

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a practical approach, and my comment here isn't necessarily aimed at you, chx (since I don't know your citizenship status), but I would add this entreaty to American citizens like me: If you ever get asked that question at the US border, please don't acquiesce to that request. They have the right to ask, and they even have the power to search it regardless of your permission, but despite an alarming drift toward…

> If you[, a citizen of the United States,] ever get asked that question at the US border, please don't acquiesce to that request. Absolutely agreed. I will do this[0]. I'm a U.S. citizen with the unequivocal right to enter the country once my citizenship has been established. U.S. citizens are the only ones who can stand up to this madness--either at the border or by influencing and electing people who can change th…

I have been that guy. All of 2009-2013 or so.

After being locked in secondary with no comms, food, or water for hours on hours enough times, one gives up. CBP once kicked me out of a border control point in northern Vermont, in a snowstorm, in February. I had to hitchhike simply to not freeze (my sim didn't work, so no way to call a cab, and they had sent the bus on without me, hours earlier).

I've been searched, both well and also simply as intimidation, more times than I can remember. Most searches are not thorough in any capacity, but simple displays of power and dominance.

My foreign partners have been repeatedly groped by these pigs. Vacations have been ruined simply by traveling together - they deny foreigners entry.

The file still haunts me. Every time I enter, secondary - with associated 30-500 minutes of delay.

There's no recourse.

I cringe every time I exit the US, for the 2-10 hours I will lose upon my next re-entry.

Their capacity to waste your time is infinite. Your time is finite.

PS: they can also take all your devices for imaging and keep them for 48 hours - but you will likely have to sue them to get them back after that time. Crossing in can be a >$10k/entry affair if they wish it to be, for you.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by sorokod »

rosser wrote: post #73
gruez wrote: post #31

Counter: the border agent asks "are you hiding any information from us?". answer yes, and they get you to disable travel mode. answer no, and you just committed a felony.

As a general comment to so many of the follow-ups to this post: You really, really don't want to get into a rules-lawyering match with Federal fucking prosecutors over whether "clever technological solution" counts as "hiding" something or not. They have all of the guns in this situation, and you have a demonstrably inaccurate understanding of the relevant statute. You WILL lose.

Looks like there is a business opportunity for an airport located on-demand lawyer practice.
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