I believe they already ask for your social media accounts, don't they? That is ridiculous in itself. Why not ask for my bank logins while you're at it?
1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders
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#392I said I wanted to avoid terrorist attacks, not be near them.
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#393Although it's a great option, what's to stop them for asking for your 1Password account credentials? I believe they already ask for your social media accounts, don't they? That is ridiculous in itself. Why not ask for my bank logins while you're at it?
One step at a time.
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#394Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is no sign in the app that you are in Travel Mode. I suppose if you are well and truly targeted and they have a really knowledgeable specialist on-hand, they could know that Travel Mode exists and ask you to disable it. But, I think that's going beyond the boundaries of a border search, which is limited to searching things that you are actually carrying across the border.
"Are you using travel mode?" "No" You just lied to someone at border control. Which is an offense.
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#395If you are refusing to enter the password, access to the device, or to disable travel mode, then good luck to you. IANAL, but the border agent doesn't care if the data is technically in the cloud, rather than on the device, because it restores when you unlock it. In addition to removing the data from the device, cheers, don't you also need to be able to honestly say you can not provide access to it? Ways to honestly…
>don't you also need to be able to honestly say you can not provide access to it? It's been said further down, but they can't possibly have carte blanche to compel that you reveal all data you have access to anywhere, which is what this would require.
The logical conclusion here, is to decide, what is more important: Gaining entry, or keeping your data. In the first case you're just fucked. If you get searched, you have to give up your stuff (even if you can claim you can't; they can then just not let you in). In the second, just encrypt your shit, rescind your request for entry when it looks like they might be interested in you and don't give up your password.
HN makes this much too complicated, again. And forgets that this is a legal and social problem, not a technical one.
Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders
#396If you are refusing to enter the password, access to the device, or to disable travel mode, then good luck to you. IANAL, but the border agent doesn't care if the data is technically in the cloud, rather than on the device, because it restores when you unlock it. In addition to removing the data from the device, cheers, don't you also need to be able to honestly say you can not provide access to it? Ways to honestly…
If you read the article, there is no "tell" that 1Password is in Travel Mode. The only impact is that most of your passwords are missing from the password vault, but the agent would have no way of knowing what's missing. It's not like it pops up a big "Travel Mode" banner.
If there is any kind of setting that lets you control travel mode, border control could just make it standard procedure to change that setting.
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#397Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Are you using travel mode?" "No" You just lied to someone at border control. Which is an offense.
Yep. Civil disobedience, unsurprisingly, includes breaking the law.
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#398Counter: the border agent asks "are you hiding any information from us?". answer yes, and they get you to disable travel mode. answer no, and you just committed a felony.
If I had to go there for work from Australia, I'd request a laptop and new credentials to be provided to me at the destination. For emergency comms during travels I'd wipe my mobile device and use a new prepaid mobile/cell service SIM card in it, from a different carrier, leaving the original one behind.
As such I'd not be bringing any 2FA that'd let me access my Lastpass which has just about all my stuff, and I'd be able to honestly state as much.
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#399Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you read the article, there is no "tell" that 1Password is in Travel Mode. The only impact is that most of your passwords are missing from the password vault, but the agent would have no way of knowing what's missing. It's not like it pops up a big "Travel Mode" banner.
That's the part I didn't get thought. If there is no way to tell then how exactly do you turn it off? (At some point, you want to turn it off after all) If there is any kind of setting that lets you control travel mode, border control could just make it standard procedure to change that setting.
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#400Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a general comment to so many of the follow-ups to this post: You really, really don't want to get into a rules-lawyering match with Federal fucking prosecutors over whether "clever technological solution" counts as "hiding" something or not. They have all of the guns in this situation, and you have a demonstrably inaccurate understanding of the relevant statute. You WILL lose.
If the question is "are you hiding any information" then the obvious (and true) answer is no. If the question is "did you use travel mode for 1password" then that's a very different question. Unless you can point out a statute that requires you to travel with certain information on your device it's hard for me to see the problem. Your position seems to be that if you were carrying your checkbook (as an American) and…
You have deliberately chosen to make certain information not available during the search period and are planning to make it available again once the search is over. I can absolutely see how that counts as "hiding".