> Surface Pro boasts 50% longer battery life than Surface Pro 4, 2.5x more performance than Surface Pro 3
Why do they compare it to the Surface Pro 3, and not the 4??
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#162Am I poor or is this thing crazy expensive ?
It is only expensive if you compare it to the craptops from dell and hp.
Its got the same pixel density of a macbook pro, weights half as much, has a touchscreen, etc.
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#163Why is it comparing battery to surface pro 4 but performance to surface pro 3?
Intel hasn't provided any interesting performance improvements in Kaby Lake; it'll probably be about the same performance as the Pro 4.
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#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
It absolutely isn't. I'm a C++ programmer working in games industry, my work machine has 64GB and all our work-issued laptops are 32GB(which is not enough to actually start local servers of our game, so doing any mobile work is quite limiting). why does this apply here: because I can easily imagine artists using this to modify some assets and trying to run the game to see what they look like, but with 16GB of ram the…
Your game needs some serious work. Maybe if your developers had 4 GB RAM on their computers the constraint would benefit them.
I know you don't mean this to sound hubristic, and I hope you consider the same of me as I'm not trying to be insulting.
But I work in the same company as Gambiting, on the same game I think. And yes, loading a map that is the size of San Andreas in GTA5 (with more props) is expensive on memory.
You can't "load a region" in the editor, not because there is a design constraint but because you need to generate navigation meshes, collision systems, render objects etc before you "stream" them in, not to mention that "streaming" is a hack that is build for consoles and weak PCs and has to be optimised for to work reliably, you'd spend more time chasing bugs in your streaming than actual bugs you were working with.
So, you load the whole map, you generate your navigation mesh and run your collision detection, and then you can do mapwide things like "find breaks in the world" and other stuff.
In this case, yes, 64G is helpful, because a developers time, especially a tools programmers time who deals in very low level C++/ASM optimisations for AAA games' time is worth more than a studio full of 64G ram modules.
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#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
The main map of the game is almost 30GB on its own and is a result of work of hundreds of people - suggesting that limiting ourselves to 4GB on work machines would be "beneficial" is silly. But hey, we're always hiring!
Who in hell does run a game server on a laptop, and outside office? by the way the integrated graphics are real shit in this laptop, better go get a MSI or something. This PC's are clearly not for high end work, it's just Macbook Pro kind of "pro". PD: I think if you're running the whole map on the RAM you're doing something wrong.
Which AAA game company do you work for?
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#166One import thing with all Surface laptops that most people don't know: > Support is limited to the country you purchased the device in. Eg: - If you buy an Apple laptop, and need a repair, they'll fix it if it's in warranty, regardless of where you are. - If you buy a Microsoft laptop, and need a warranty repair done in a different country, Microsoft won't help you. I purchased a Surface Book (which I love) in a Micr…
This is not correct.
My employer is in New Jersey, I'm in Canada. They purchased me a Surface Pro 3 at my request, and I've never had a problem getting support directly from Microsoft, including 2 48-hour replacements.
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#167> The most versatile laptop. ...that doesn't ship with a keyboard (pen isn't included either). No USB-C. 16GB RAM maximum.
Plus that kickstand always looked so inconvenient to me. On normal laptop I can adjust screen angle however I want. The kickstand also require a bigger surface to put it down properly. On normal laptop I am fine as long as the bottom half can fit on the table (or any flat surface), here there is need for much more space, seems very inconvenient especially when working in tight spaces like server room, car, or small c…
As some others have said, the kickstand can actually be more convenient in tight spaces (especially flights.) Most of the time, it's perfectly lap-able (typing this from a chair by my pool.)
Additionally, it has the great feature of elevating the heat source off the ground. This comes up any time I want to sit it on, for example, my couch. With my old laptop, the fan exhaust was largely getting smothered in upholstery, but with my surface pro it's sitting 6 inches above the table/couch/surface.
You can barely use it in your lap if your legs are crossed, and the keyboard can't be used if you're holding the device in mid-air. Other than that, my complaints are all about heat dispersion/generation, not the form factor.
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#168Top model has 1TBGB SSD ! That's 1 terabyte gigabyte or zillions of all kinds of bytes :). Typos aside, hardware looks promising, but Windows... The only place were I'm ok with Windows is a multi monitor gaming rig.. And that's because there's no other choice.
1000 exabytes² to be exact!
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#169> Surface Pro boasts 50% longer battery life than Surface Pro 4, 2.5x more performance than Surface Pro 3 Why do they compare it to the Surface Pro 3, and not the 4??
To get a higher number, no doubt. However, it may be excusable given that many buyers may be coming from SP3.
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#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is (currently) a two-year EU-mandated warranty, Apple was even taken to court for not emphasizing this enough when selling AppleCare.
They fixed the logic board of my 3 year old Macbook Pro. They quibbled at first, but agreed to do it free of charge after I quoted the EU legislation.
I'm confused, you quoted the 2-year support requirement and they then fixed your 3-year old laptop?