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Re: New Surface Pro

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Post by melling »

intoverflow2 wrote: post #122
Longhanks wrote: post #4

> The most versatile laptop. ...that doesn't ship with a keyboard (pen isn't included either). No USB-C. 16GB RAM maximum.

> No USB-C What would you even plug into it? It's not like USB-C accessories are readily stocked everywhere, I'm still carrying around dongles all day for my TouchBar MBP. If the laptop shipped with USB-C people would be whinging they need dongles, literally can't win.

What connector do you think you'll need in two years, five years, 10 years?

The transition to USB-C has begun. For most of the life of the device, you'll probably want USB-C.

I'm sure Microsoft will get to it in the next release.

Re: New Surface Pro

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Post by wakkaflokka »

rch wrote: post #105
wakkaflokka wrote: post #59

Alright, now that this is out: what should I get? Most of my heavy-duty work is done via SSH into a remote VM. I watch movies, but mostly browse the web. Most of my actual work is programming intensive. I like pretty screens. Larger is usually better. I want to be able to take it on a plane without hassle when I travel. New surface? HP Elite x360 15"? Wait for Surface Book refresh? Yoga?

Dell Precision 5520 looks like the best machine out right now, among the larger/higher-performing options.

Looking for a hybrid though (tablet mode), doesn't look like Precision does that? Otherwise that'd be a solid choice.

Re: New Surface Pro

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Post by IanDrake »

ikeboy wrote: post #133

Why is it comparing battery to surface pro 4 but performance to surface pro 3?

Because 10% more powerful than the Pro 4 is a bad headline and realistically upgrades are going to come from SP3 users.

I have an SP4 and this would be a very hard to sell upgrade to me.

Re: New Surface Pro

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Post by blowski »

sambe wrote: post #127
iaskwhy wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"If you buy an Apple laptop, and need a repair, they'll fix it if it's in warranty, regardless of where you are." This can be misleading. I bought my Macbook Air in Portugal, had 2y warranty there. Then moved to the UK and the brick stopped working. Went to an Apple Store and since it was after the 1y warranty offered when you buy it in the UK, they rejected replacing it for me. Eventually went to Portugal to visit m…

There is (currently) a two-year EU-mandated warranty, Apple was even taken to court for not emphasizing this enough when selling AppleCare.

They fixed the logic board of my 3 year old Macbook Pro. They quibbled at first, but agreed to do it free of charge after I quoted the EU legislation.

Re: New Surface Pro

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Post by zghst »

franciscop wrote: post #8

They are still using the SurfaceDock with the SurfaceConnect Cable: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/accessories/surface-... , which does basically the same as USB-C. In an era when even Apple is rumored (and even if false, still plausible) to be switching to USB-C for the iPhone, Microsoft still tries to force a proprietary connector. Didn't they learn anything from IE? Even if it's good for them for a while,…

I assume it was a combination of limited engineering expertise AND Microsoft's tendency of being a late adapter due to its business customer base. No matter how hard they try, little things like this show Microsoft's competitive handicap.

Re: New Surface Pro

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Post by j45 »

nilved wrote: post #13
Longhanks wrote: post #4

> The most versatile laptop. ...that doesn't ship with a keyboard (pen isn't included either). No USB-C. 16GB RAM maximum.

Are you saying that 16 GB isn't enough?

RAM is lung capacity for a device, as well as longevity.

Longer device life and usefulness comes come from additional ram than a beefier processor.

Apple mentioned somewhere the 32 GB laptop jump involves dealing with a battery usage hit. While 32 GB arrives, a few vendors like Lenovo seem to have the 32 GB offering available in laptops, but not their Surface Pro clone.

Re: New Surface Pro

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Post by predakanga »

coldtea wrote: post #94
maxxxxx wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not sure if you are trying to be funny or if you are an arrogant prick.

Regardless of parent's aim, that's actually a very good advice for any developer.

It reminds me of the story "The programming antihero" from an old Gamasutra article[1]

"He knew from experience that it was always impossible to cut content down to memory budgets, and that many projects had come close to failing because of it. So now, as a regular practice, he always put aside a nice block of memory to free up when it's really needed."

[1]: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/132500/dirty_coding_tr...

Re: New Surface Pro

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Post by Roritharr »

nicpottier wrote: post #70
Roritharr wrote: post #3

No Thunderbolt 3 as the leaks said. Can't buy it for that reason alone​. (Our office goes for TB3 Docks everywhere so Mac and Windows Users can use the same Flex Desks)

Which dock and what has your experience been with them? Seems there are very few out there..

Currently CalDigits TS3 Lite works well, we have a couple, but we want to Rollout the full TS3 as soon as they become available so we can ditch the chargers aswell.

Re: New Surface Pro

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Post by rsynnott »

dilap wrote: post #69
nailer wrote: post #41

One import thing with all Surface laptops that most people don't know: > Support is limited to the country you purchased the device in. Eg: - If you buy an Apple laptop, and need a repair, they'll fix it if it's in warranty, regardless of where you are. - If you buy a Microsoft laptop, and need a warranty repair done in a different country, Microsoft won't help you. I purchased a Surface Book (which I love) in a Micr…

wow, that's crazy customer unfriendly.

Apple's kind of the exception here, really; most consumer electronics vendors won't offer international support.
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