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Re: New Surface Pro

#71
post #52

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OK its pro, but it is also mobile. Who has a mobile device (not something that just sits at your desk all day) with 32 GB of ram?

I have the XPS 15 with 32GB ram, it's an amazing laptop. It becomes essential once you start running VM's or Docker etc

I dunno, I do all that with 16gb of RAM, and have for years.

Re: New Surface Pro

#72
post #13

> The most versatile laptop. ...that doesn't ship with a keyboard (pen isn't included either). No USB-C. 16GB RAM maximum.

Are you saying that 16 GB isn't enough?

Yes I'm saying it's not enough. It's the same RAM that was available 4 years ago on Macbook Pro (and still not available any higher on MBP either).

It's common to run several types of server in production, these all need to be run on localhost for development purposes. Also virtual environments so server architecture can easily be scripted.

16GB works for me, but is far from ideal. I was hoping MS would one-up Apple here, but not yet.

Re: New Surface Pro

#73
post #13

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Are you saying that 16 GB isn't enough?

It absolutely isn't. I'm a C++ programmer working in games industry, my work machine has 64GB and all our work-issued laptops are 32GB(which is not enough to actually start local servers of our game, so doing any mobile work is quite limiting). why does this apply here: because I can easily imagine artists using this to modify some assets and trying to run the game to see what they look like, but with 16GB of ram the…

I think that's kind of expected though. The game you're likely working on isn't meant to really run on a Surface either.

Re: New Surface Pro

#74
post #35

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Plus that kickstand always looked so inconvenient to me. On normal laptop I can adjust screen angle however I want. The kickstand also require a bigger surface to put it down properly. On normal laptop I am fine as long as the bottom half can fit on the table (or any flat surface), here there is need for much more space, seems very inconvenient especially when working in tight spaces like server room, car, or small c…

So buy a f*cking laptop! I'm only half-kidding - but criticizing an integral part of a product, when there are multiple alternatives with exact the feature your desire is ... silly.

This looks like a laptop to me! Having read your comment I imagine I have to reassess. But in my head while watching the video I was evaluating it to replace by old MacBook Pro.

Re: New Surface Pro

#75
post #58

I've been waiting for this for a while (despite being a Mac user for years and years). And it doesn't quite compute (ba dum tss). Two reasons really. 1. No USB-C. 2. If I want 16 gigs of RAM, I need to opt for an i7 and half a terabyte of SSD. I wish I could just go for an i5 with 256 gigs of storage and 16 gigs of RAM. That would be sweet (and not as expensive). Too bad, let's see what others come up with.

On the same boat, waiting for the sweet spot laptop, of a good enough processor, but still 16GB ram and enough hdd space. Whoever provides the better laptop will get me as their customer, whether Apple or Microsoft. Anyone else has to fight for it hard enough, I am considering Dell for Ubuntu though.

Re: New Surface Pro

#76

> The most versatile laptop. ...that doesn't ship with a keyboard (pen isn't included either). No USB-C. 16GB RAM maximum.

They'll "give" you a USB-C dongle.

https://www.theverge.com/2017/5/23/15674254/microsoft-surfac...

> Microsoft is planning to release a dongle that will plug into the new Surface Pro and Surface Laptop devices and provide USB-C support. It’s like any dongle you’d expect, and it simply slots into the Surface connector port on the device. “If you want to charge a device with a Type-C charger, you can. If you want to put data back and forth with a Type-C peripheral, you can,” says Panay.

Re: New Surface Pro

#77

> The most versatile laptop. ...that doesn't ship with a keyboard (pen isn't included either). No USB-C. 16GB RAM maximum.

Apparently the surface connector can do usb-c through a dongle: http://m.windowscentral.com/why-no-usb-type-c-new-surface-pr... Which, honestly, I might prefer right now since I still use mostly usb 2&3 devices.

As someone who has a bunch of SurfaceConnect devices, and still has zero USB Type-C devices but plenty of regular USB accessories...

This product wouldn't be appealing to me if they'd put Type-C on it instead of SurfaceConnect and Type-A.

Re: New Surface Pro

#78
post #66
post #55

Honestly, $100 for the pen? That should honestly be included since the keyboard isn't.

Wow, that means they really jacked up the price this year. My SP4 was pen included. $1060 for the m3 model with a pen and type cover.

They lowered the prices on the SKUs to compensate.

Honestly, there's no pleasing some people. When the pen was included, everyone was saying, "let me buy a cheaper SKU without the pen; I don't want it!", and now that they've done that everyone is complaining.

Re: New Surface Pro

#79
Top model has 1TBGB SSD ! That's 1 terabyte gigabyte or zillions of all kinds of bytes :).

Typos aside, hardware looks promising, but Windows...

The only place were I'm ok with Windows is a multi monitor gaming rig.. And that's because there's no other choice.

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