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Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by kafkaesq »

joshstrange wrote: post #128

It won't be a popular opinion here but here it goes: Well if it all goes to hell we will all be in the same handbasket. I'm simply not willing to cut people out of my life and miss out on things that are important to me because my data is mined and might be used against me. All these distributed platforms are a joke, no really they are technically cool but no one I care about is on them. Maybe if your entire social c…

I'm simply not willing to cut people out of my life and miss out on things that are important to me because my data is mined and might be used against me.

I concur that FB can be useful for finding out about stuff going in your world.

But if not using a certain commercial product -- any commercial product -- means "cutting people out of your life" to any significant degree, then well... you might want to think about the degree of dependence you've signed onto in using that particular product. And indeed, whether you really "need" that degree of (perceived) interaction with all of those people.

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Post by plcancel »

aantix wrote: post #14

Queue the onslaught of "I haven't used Facebook in.... years!" comments. You're probably already hitting the down-vote button. I wonder why there's so much anti-fb commentary on HN? Maybe it has to do with the software engineers tending to be less social and introverted, therefore a social service appears to have less worth? Just speculating. As for me, Facebook creates an emotional connection unlike any other servic…

"If Facebook were suddenly gone tomorrow, I would feel devastated (so many memories of my kids, deceased father, mom, all would be gone). The only other sites that would provoke a similar emotional response from me would probably be Google and maybe Github."

Hey! What are the odds you and some other user commenting here both have such similar experiences?! You should connect with them on Facebook! Maybe Github?

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Post by lyra_comms »

williamle8300 wrote: post #159
lyra_comms wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you! We charge £2.99 per year ($3.80) to users in developed countries. We aim to keep access free for users in developing countries.

Awesome. Do you do photo-hosting? I could see that easily sapping away all of your money. Or is it just text?

We just do text - but we do it well. Text is both very cheap, and very expressive.

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Post by nihonde »

joshstrange wrote: post #128

It won't be a popular opinion here but here it goes: Well if it all goes to hell we will all be in the same handbasket. I'm simply not willing to cut people out of my life and miss out on things that are important to me because my data is mined and might be used against me. All these distributed platforms are a joke, no really they are technically cool but no one I care about is on them. Maybe if your entire social c…

I think you greatly underestimate the degree to which you cede your personal sovereignty over to others by participating in these services. It's fine if you trust these companies (and more importantly their employees) to take good care of you. I don't trust anyone in America to do that, but you're free to spend your personal freedom how you like.

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Post by mcgrath_sh »

kafkaesq wrote: post #211
joshstrange wrote: post #128

It won't be a popular opinion here but here it goes: Well if it all goes to hell we will all be in the same handbasket. I'm simply not willing to cut people out of my life and miss out on things that are important to me because my data is mined and might be used against me. All these distributed platforms are a joke, no really they are technically cool but no one I care about is on them. Maybe if your entire social c…

I'm simply not willing to cut people out of my life and miss out on things that are important to me because my data is mined and might be used against me. I concur that FB can be useful for finding out about stuff going in your world. But if not using a certain commercial product -- any commercial product -- means "cutting people out of your life" to any significant degree, then well... you might want to think about…

It may not be him that is dependent on a commercial product. I rarely, if ever, use Facebook as an active product. By this I mean I may post a generic status once or twice a month and may actively check my feed once or twice a week. However, if I were to completely close down my Facebook account, I would lose all of the passive information that is sent to me. This includes invitations to parties, people letting me know they are in town, updates from groups and organizations I am a part of, etc. So many people use Facebook as a pseudo or complete replacement for email. By removing myself from that service, I lose contact with those people and organizations. I am only one person. I cannot change the behavior of a couple hundred people to suit me.

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Post by wchurchill »

I'm having a ridiculously hard time finding archived versions of FB's previous ToS, privacy, and data policies. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Disclaimer: I'm trying to avoid going to facebook[.]com directly because I'm a paranoid ninny.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by marricks »

mcgrath_sh wrote: post #215
kafkaesq wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm simply not willing to cut people out of my life and miss out on things that are important to me because my data is mined and might be used against me. I concur that FB can be useful for finding out about stuff going in your world. But if not using a certain commercial product -- any commercial product -- means "cutting people out of your life" to any significant degree, then well... you might want to think about…

It may not be him that is dependent on a commercial product. I rarely, if ever, use Facebook as an active product. By this I mean I may post a generic status once or twice a month and may actively check my feed once or twice a week. However, if I were to completely close down my Facebook account, I would lose all of the passive information that is sent to me. This includes invitations to parties, people letting me kn…

I think the article details well how useful you are to facebook even if you are a light user.

They get info you still say, they get what sites you visit and what content is there, they get what you and your friends say to each other... like even as a partial user you still get MANY of the bad affects.

Not to mention, for me and many other people I bet, "cutting down" doesn't ever really work. They spend tons of money trying to increase engagement and make sure you stay on making that quite hard.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by pasquinelli »

joshstrange wrote: post #128

It won't be a popular opinion here but here it goes: Well if it all goes to hell we will all be in the same handbasket. I'm simply not willing to cut people out of my life and miss out on things that are important to me because my data is mined and might be used against me. All these distributed platforms are a joke, no really they are technically cool but no one I care about is on them. Maybe if your entire social c…

This is the first I've heard of a stigma against people who don't have a facebook. Anytime it comes up I don't have one -- which is rarely -- seems to either be taken as a simple matter of fact, (usually by people older than me, it seems), or as something to aspire to, like I just told them I'm a vegan or something.

Maybe it's regional; I'm in portland.

Back when I was on facebook I had a friend who wasn't. I remember just being kind of annoyed that I couldn't just send a group message, I'd have to send him an email separately, but otherwise didn't attach any significance to the choice.

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