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Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by PhasmaFelis »

newtem0 wrote: post #59

You could replace this whole article by saying "facebook is a private company and they have all your data, from posting and messaging as well as their cookies". Its just a bad idea at its very core. All these examples are trivial, who cares if they fake endorsements and track your location? Its like building a house out of sand and then people point out that a chunk fell off here or there. Its a house of sand, it was…

> Users who seem to need facebook in order to stay up to date with their friends

It doesn't sound like you actually understand the service Facebook provides, which makes your claim that it's all about to come crashing down very suspect.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by williamle8300 »

lyra_comms wrote: post #90

Get your loved ones on Lyra instead. Lyra is an open conversation service which respects language, puts the user in control, and is designed with harrassment protection in mind. We're a nonprofit and don't accept investment.

What's Lyra? I just see a website that looks like a social media marketing agency.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by Arizhel »

bargl wrote: post #27

As for me, Facebook creates an emotional connection unlike any other service out there. I get to see my friends kids grow up, comfort lost friends when they lose a parent, share with my family when something great has happened. It's absolutely amazing and there's nothing out there that comes close to its reach. If Facebook were suddenly gone tomorrow, I would feel devastated (so many memories of my kids, deceased fat…

>If Facebook were suddenly gone tomorrow, I would feel devastated (so many memories of my kids, deceased father, mom, all would be gone).

WTF? How would they be "gone"? Facebook does not control your memories. So what else would you be losing if Facebook suddenly disappeared? Photos or videos? You don't say exactly, but I suspect this is the case. If so, then that's your own stupid fault for not keeping personal copies of that stuff. If you don't value that data enough to keep your own personal copies of it, then you don't deserve to have it IMO. Portable hard drives are not expensive these days, and store literally terabytes of data (I just bought a 4TB USB drive a couple months ago for just over $100). USB thumb drives are less than $10 for smaller sizes which will still probably hold everything that's on your phone now. There is absolutely no excuse for not having copies of data that's most precious to you.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by bitmapbrother »

>Facebook gives your data to “third-parties” through your use of apps, and then say that’s you doing it, not them. Every time you use an app connected to Facebook, you’re allowing Facebook to escape its own privacy policy with you and with your friends.

Has anyone checked what data is given to these third party apps that connect to Facebook?

Tangentially, I'm reminded of an Austrian that asked for all of the data Facebook had on him. Facebook then sent him a 1,200 page PDF containing the messages of every person he talked to, all of his IP addresses as well as messages that he had deleted.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by ghostly_s »

cylinder wrote: post #56
nvr219 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Accroding to FB help: "When you delete your account, people won't be able to see it on Facebook. It may take up to 90 days from the beginning of the deletion process to delete all of the things you've posted, like your photos, status updates or other data stored in backup systems. While we are deleting this information, it is inaccessible to other people using Facebook." https://www.facebook.com/help/224562897555674

That doesn't answer the question as to whether they are still using the data internally.

'Deleting' seems pretty clearly to convey that they do not retain that info, for any purpose. (IANAL?)

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by Animats »

Useful hints:

- Put anything on Facebook you're willing to have on a public web page. Stop there.

- Don't use Facebook's messaging or email.

- On desktops and laptops, run Ghostery and Privacy Badger. This keeps Facebook's "like" buttons from tracking your browsing.

- Don't run Facebook's phone app. It's way too intrusive; it gives your contact list to Facebook, just for starters.

- Remember, sharing is spamming. Don't "share" links from others on Facebook. That makes you an unpaid employee of Facebook's ad engine.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by bargl »

throwanem wrote: post #70
bargl wrote: post #27

As for me, Facebook creates an emotional connection unlike any other service out there. I get to see my friends kids grow up, comfort lost friends when they lose a parent, share with my family when something great has happened. It's absolutely amazing and there's nothing out there that comes close to its reach. If Facebook were suddenly gone tomorrow, I would feel devastated (so many memories of my kids, deceased fat…

I've never used Facebook. But if I had, to the extent you have, it would horrify and frighten me to reflect upon the fact that so much of my emotional life were all but inextricably tied into one private company, such that staying in that company's good graces had become a necessary part of maintaining access to my own memories .

I think you are taking this a little out of context. The best part for me is the feed into other peoples lives. It's a service I'd be sad to loose.

It's interesting to find someone on here who maintains all of their files/email/photos/etc locally in a redundantly backed-up manner at home on their own personal server. How did you do that? Can you recommend me a way to do that for a non-technical person?

If you don't then it would horrify and frighten me to reflect upon the fact that so much of my personal data was tied up into one private company. See what I did there?

Again, just to reiterate it's about the feed, and the loss of that connection to the people in my feed. I mean what would you do if apple/google wrote an update to their os that wiped all of your contacts for good? It's not going to happen, just like your example of loosing access to my memories because Facebook decides to destroy it's own brand.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by ghostly_s »

er1c_ wrote: post #55
nvr219 wrote: post #2

I take a facebook "sabbatical" every couple of years where I delete my account completely and permanently, and then come back with a brand new account a few months later. It irritates my friends but I love it.

I've done this a few times too. Facebook still knows who I am even though I sign up with different email addresses. I do have an account right now but I only really use it to authenticate on third party sites. It's interesting to me that my friends ask did you see my X post on FB instead of telling me about things in their life.

> Facebook still knows who I am even though I sign up with different email addresses.

Do you have some evidence for this or just presuming?

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