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Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by andegre »

natoliniak wrote: post #36
jtraffic wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's been since 2009 since I deleted my Facebook account, and my timeline was roughly like yours for weeks 1-4. Then: - 2nd year, wonder if I should get back on to 'stay in touch.' - 3rd-5th year, never think about it - 6th year, wonder if I should get on Facebook so my family can see pictures of my kids. But, my wife does Instagram. - 8th year, smug comment on HN to show how long I've been off Facebook :).

> wonder if I should get on Facebook so my family can see pictures of my kids I had a realization: those who really want to see photos of my kids will simply ask me for them so i never posted their photos (pull not push)...so far, about four people have asked which made me very happy that someone is really interested in seeing them and also that my kids didn't become a source of nuisance for many others.

FYI - my parents refused to join Facebook, so they started a Cluster account. I have no idea and the privacy and stuff for that, but it works for them.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by dump121 »

Are people really concerned of privacy, or just witch hunt against some companies? Bigger privacy threats I see are always tracking, always listening device we keep in pocket, which sends it all to cloud. Still I see know serious effort to mitigate that, efforts by like of Firefox/Ubuntu are dissed as distractions.

Developers on HN regularly proclaim wonders of Chromebook/Google Docs without any corresponding rhetoric about privacy.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by haggy »

vinhboy wrote: post #43
bargl wrote: post #27

As for me, Facebook creates an emotional connection unlike any other service out there. I get to see my friends kids grow up, comfort lost friends when they lose a parent, share with my family when something great has happened. It's absolutely amazing and there's nothing out there that comes close to its reach. If Facebook were suddenly gone tomorrow, I would feel devastated (so many memories of my kids, deceased fat…

Same here. I use facebook because I enjoy the content that my friends share. I am not using it because I believe “I have nothing to hide”. I am sensitive to privacy and secrecy. I will fight for it every chance I get. But I willingly share my life on facebook and enjoy the content shared with me. I get more value out of facebook than the countless other services that spy on me. For example, just a few weeks ago I got…

You say "I am sensitive to privacy and secrecy. I will fight for it every chance I get" but then contradict with "I willingly share my life on facebook and enjoy the content shared with me". That's the problem. The government has never had a tool like this before and because of the social graph that facebook created, will likely not have another one like it anytime soon. Unfortunately for the average user (and even very advanced users) leaving Facebook altogether is the only option to maintaining secrecy of any kind. FB updates ToS far too often and nobody bothers to stay up to date with it. Using the service is admitting that you are willing to give up all secrecy and privacy (thanks to their chat being completely centralized). IMO, using Facebook implies you don't care about secrecy or privacy.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by er1c_ »

nvr219 wrote: post #2

I take a facebook "sabbatical" every couple of years where I delete my account completely and permanently, and then come back with a brand new account a few months later. It irritates my friends but I love it.

I've done this a few times too. Facebook still knows who I am even though I sign up with different email addresses. I do have an account right now but I only really use it to authenticate on third party sites.

It's interesting to me that my friends ask did you see my X post on FB instead of telling me about things in their life.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by cylinder »

nvr219 wrote: post #47
cylinder wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren't they preserving your deleted data? They could link your new accounts with your old data internally

Accroding to FB help: "When you delete your account, people won't be able to see it on Facebook. It may take up to 90 days from the beginning of the deletion process to delete all of the things you've posted, like your photos, status updates or other data stored in backup systems. While we are deleting this information, it is inaccessible to other people using Facebook." https://www.facebook.com/help/224562897555674

That doesn't answer the question as to whether they are still using the data internally.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by aantix »

bargl wrote: post #22
aantix wrote: post #14

Queue the onslaught of "I haven't used Facebook in.... years!" comments. You're probably already hitting the down-vote button. I wonder why there's so much anti-fb commentary on HN? Maybe it has to do with the software engineers tending to be less social and introverted, therefore a social service appears to have less worth? Just speculating. As for me, Facebook creates an emotional connection unlike any other servic…

Do you mind if I word for word quote your above to see if I get downvoted too? I want to repost with just the last two paragraphs to see what happens. I'm curious how this post would have been received without the intro.

Heh, must be a divisive comment. The points are just oscillating between a positive [2] and negative [2] range..

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by bargl »

aantix wrote: post #57
bargl wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you mind if I word for word quote your above to see if I get downvoted too? I want to repost with just the last two paragraphs to see what happens. I'm curious how this post would have been received without the intro.

Heh, must be a divisive comment. The points are just oscillating between a positive [2] and negative [2] range..

I think only the first two paragraphs are controversial, I am sitting at 9 points on my post (which is the exact same) but someone else may have upvoted, or someone who saw this might have upvoted. IDK but it's an interesting experiment.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by newtem0 »

You could replace this whole article by saying "facebook is a private company and they have all your data, from posting and messaging as well as their cookies". Its just a bad idea at its very core. All these examples are trivial, who cares if they fake endorsements and track your location? Its like building a house out of sand and then people point out that a chunk fell off here or there. Its a house of sand, it was a retarded idea to live in there from the outset, of course chunks are falling off -- the whole thing will be in peices soon. Because facebook is an anxiety enducing and artificial experience, users will start leaving. Users who seem to need facebook in order to stay up to date with their friends, and who seem to have an interest in watching other peoples kids grow up (?) such as the one poster above me (and whos post will inevitably remain above mine) will stay -- but they will be the minority. Kids will stop signing up and at some point there will be a leak and the death of facebooks public image will finally be complete after starting years ago.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by aantix »

bargl wrote: post #58
aantix wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heh, must be a divisive comment. The points are just oscillating between a positive [2] and negative [2] range..

I think only the first two paragraphs are controversial, I am sitting at 9 points on my post (which is the exact same) but someone else may have upvoted, or someone who saw this might have upvoted. IDK but it's an interesting experiment.

Agree, great experiment. Thanks for sharing the point total.
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