Ahh UK State Media. I swiftly cancelled my Licence after the Scottish Indy Ref. I say let the licence fee collapse.
BBC Says It May Contact Your Boss If You Post Comments It Finds Problematic
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you mean when you say you don't believe it's a "slippery slope"? That the proper boundaries are obvious to everyone? I think the reason this is okay is that notifying a school or employer of your behavior is not the same as persecution.
I see no problem with giving someone a heads up that they've employed an asshole.
The problem with this is that things change from time to time. Replace "asshole" with "Japanese sympathizer" during/after World War 2, or "Communist sympathizer" during the reign of McCarthyism. Would you be so quick to say that this is a good thing then?
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#23Wow, that's confusing. I know that I know very little about U.K. law, so I would appreciate if someone there could answer: - Do employers typically have law-enforcement duties? - Is there a legal presumption of innocence---until proven otherwise---as there is in the U.S.? - Besides TV Licenses, is the BBC a judicial entity? I'm just trying to understand why the BBC may notify a non-law-enforcement agency about a poss…
It's got nothing to do with the law. They're notifying third parties about people who they suspect of posting "offensive" content.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem comes down to the definition of "harassment". I've encountered my fair share of people, some in positions of authority and/or should know better, who honestly believe that disagreement or impolite comments constitute "harassment". Frankly, I'm not at all comfortable with a global media outlet reserving the right to try to get people fired in private for internet comments.
How about we start with racism? Some things are a grey area but some are downright harassment.
What about pornography? Some things are in a grey area but some are downright naughty.
Same thing: the extremes are easy to label. The question is where do you draw the line between showing an ankle or face, and full-out copulation in 4K?
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#25BBC may want to rethink that. Either it is illegal and then the police and courts are the place or it is legal and then it is none of their business. What they are threatening is when they perceive their TOS are violated that they use personal information and interfere in other relationships. This exposes the BBC to liability e.g. if the person is fired they may ask the BBC to pay up. See also: https://en.wikipedia.o…
Why is it "none of the BBC's business" when you send hate mail to the BBC? Haven't you made it their business?
That magic spell again: Hate mail.
All parties are invited to remember, one guy's considered opinion is another guy's hate speech.
And then, ever so often, the wind changes, the tables are turned, those in the wrong are now in the right, and those in the right are now everybody's laughing stock.
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#26Ahh UK State Media. I swiftly cancelled my Licence after the Scottish Indy Ref. I say let the licence fee collapse.
So it becomes funded by the UK tax system? They are already contemplating scrapping the fee and increasing taxes to pay for BBC.
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#27I'm no fan of the 'employer' part, because it places companies in a position as arbitrators of behaviour that they don't deserve. BUT: Considering the stuff I see people posting online, I do think it's such a cesspool of hatred, ill-will and really bad arguments that I am concerned how societies will continue to function, if these interactions become a routine part of civic society. In the past, your opinions, and st…
Idiots on a forum are not representative of society at large. In my opinion, only the extremes post day and night and I don't bother reading it anymore.
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#28I'm no fan of the 'employer' part, because it places companies in a position as arbitrators of behaviour that they don't deserve. BUT: Considering the stuff I see people posting online, I do think it's such a cesspool of hatred, ill-will and really bad arguments that I am concerned how societies will continue to function, if these interactions become a routine part of civic society. In the past, your opinions, and st…
And who gets to decide what's comme il faut and what is not?
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#29If you post harassing comments, this probably should happen. People are going to be concerned about free speech, but harassment isn't free speech, and I honestly don't believe it's a "slippery slope".
I'm glad you don't call the shots.
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#30BBC may want to rethink that. Either it is illegal and then the police and courts are the place or it is legal and then it is none of their business. What they are threatening is when they perceive their TOS are violated that they use personal information and interfere in other relationships. This exposes the BBC to liability e.g. if the person is fired they may ask the BBC to pay up. See also: https://en.wikipedia.o…
Anything you choose to publish on the BBC's website is their business. It's not as though they're going around looking for naughty posts on third-party websites and tattling about it.
There is no automatic right to anonymity when posting on someone else's website. If you post something publicly, surely the expectation is that you're fine with anyone seeing it. If the BBC chooses to share that with your boss, why is it different to anyone else choosing to share it with a member of the public.
If you don't want everyone to know that you're a dick, don't be a dick in public.