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Re: Android O Beta Program

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Just to provide a counterpoint: I'm still rocking a 3.5 year old Nexus 5 with almost zero evidence of its age (the battery discharges a bit faster than it used to but it's not noticeable enough to even warrant a new battery).

Not really trying to ding the Nexus line itself, honestly I loved them overall. My N1 far surpassed my expectations, and lived on yet another year after I gave it to a friend. I liked the 6P quite a lot. The 5X/6P generation does seem to have fairly widely reported and consistent issues however. They used to be subsidized by Google and offered at a lower price point, but at flagship levels they have greater competiti…

Wells Fargo credit cards and the Chase Ink Preferred credit card both provide device insurance if you pay your monthly bill with the card.

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So you got a cheap phone and complain about the cheap experience. They offer a premium phone and you jump ship. I personally love my pixel but there are more than a few nice Android phones to pick from.

6P is a 'cheap' phone?

Yes. It's half the price of other flagship phones.

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No nexus 6 support. Sad face. The shelf life of phones is embarrassingly low. For no apparent reason.

The real issue for the Nexus 6 is that Qualcomm has completely abandoned their 32-bit mobile platforms. Look for "8084" here: https://wiki.codeaurora.org/xwiki/bin/QAEP/release - the Snapdragon 805 hasn't received a release since August 2016. So, Google did an in-house bringup for 7.0 - and "normal" OEMs aren't able to do that. Qualcomm usually provides a lot of pre-compiled binaries to the OEM, which either require…

Cool but Apple's 32 bit iPhones still get updates and also use Qualcomm chips...

What's the difference in how they operate with suppliers?

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My Nexus 6P died last night after Given the short support curve for most Android devices from Google and especially from third parties, that device is quite likely to be an iPhone. What was unthinkable to me just a few short years ago is now reality... I type this on a MBP and I might be convert my phone platform now as well. A true testament to the constant change in the marketplace, and the need to evaluate based o…

Just to provide a counterpoint: I'm still rocking a 3.5 year old Nexus 5 with almost zero evidence of its age (the battery discharges a bit faster than it used to but it's not noticeable enough to even warrant a new battery).

I love my N5, but the battery is dying, and I've also had to replace the power button too.

I would like to keep using it, but the battery plus the lack of software updates is pushing me back into the market...

(When I become Prime Minister, providing only 3 years of security support for a product that ought to last at least 5 will become illegal...)

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I did this beta program for Android N back in the day but had to revert because, uh, Pokemon Go didn't work on it. I'm embarrassed to admit I'm still playing.... but can anyone confirm whether Pokemon Go works for them on the Android O beta?

Haha, don't be embarrassed! I also want to know!

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post #59

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Just to provide a counterpoint: I'm still rocking a 3.5 year old Nexus 5 with almost zero evidence of its age (the battery discharges a bit faster than it used to but it's not noticeable enough to even warrant a new battery).

You have been out of security support for a long time - apps, web pages and video clips can pwn your device.

That's surprisingly terrible. Unbelievable. To think that Google can't even support its own devices after 3 years whilst the Linux ecosystem supports a silly number of devices and platforms, substantially on a volunteer basis

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Just installed it on my Pixel XL already on a beta version of N. Sadly the update failed meaning I had to factory wipe. Given I'm overseas right now, not ideal as I can't receive my 2FA SMS to log back in to everything! I guess I should be less trigger happy on beta software! Otherwise seems like a nice incremental step. Android pay not currently supported which is another downer to running this beta.

Being overseas should not stop you from receiving SMS.

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post #8

My Nexus 6P died last night after Given the short support curve for most Android devices from Google and especially from third parties, that device is quite likely to be an iPhone. What was unthinkable to me just a few short years ago is now reality... I type this on a MBP and I might be convert my phone platform now as well. A true testament to the constant change in the marketplace, and the need to evaluate based o…

One plus is the best choice. Great hardware, reasonable price, up-to-date Android no horrible skins on top of stock.

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A Nexus 4 handed down to my son recently stopped working when he dropped it, smashing the screen. Gave him my cast off Nexus 5 that was still storming great. My wife's Nexus 5 was working perfectly, though we replaced it with an iPhone 7 (to her great dismay, it turns out). My own Nexus 6P has worked perfectly, but for dev reasons I replaced it with a GS8 (which is simply a stunning device in every way, including the…

Yeah, devices dying that fast isn't the norm. That said, Apple will take better care of you inside or outside warranty. To be fair, that has been Apple's schtick for a long time, google is just getting into this business model.

I've had a good experience only once with Apple once out of three times I've taken items in, when they replaced the logic board on my MBP a week after the program to replace for that model ended. They still refuse to honor well known fraying problems with their MagSafe adapters. The other time involved a 2010 MBP battery replacement that should have taken 15 minutes to half an hour, maybe an hour (I was told as much). It ended up taking four hours and they never contacted me when it was ready. If Apple was willing to sell parts to their customers, I would have had it done in 10 minutes.

Honestly, I've had about the same experience with Google (specifically Project Fi) with a different set of issues. I can't really say that one company is better than the other, and I doubt it would be easy to find reliable data to make a case for one or the other.

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Just to provide a counterpoint: I'm still rocking a 3.5 year old Nexus 5 with almost zero evidence of its age (the battery discharges a bit faster than it used to but it's not noticeable enough to even warrant a new battery).

I loved my N5 but the battery wasn't user replaceable. I am not one to crack open my phone (plus the power switch died). I got a 5x .. decent phone but had speed slowdowns since day 1. I made the mistake of getting a 16 GB version (lack of expansion is mind boggling). I'm also disappointed with the Pixel's price. Might get an iPhone next.

The Nexus 5 is very user serviceable - all the parts a labelled, most things just clip on/off. Replacing the power switch is a 10 minute job, and costs ~$5.
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