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Re: Android O Beta Program

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Not yet, but they did provide packs of Oreos for attendees. Apparently they gave these out last year, so it's not a lock.

Oreos are probably a trademark, so I wouldn't bet on that. How about Sundae?

Am I missing something? Sundae doesn't even have an "O" in it

Re: Android O Beta Program

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My Nexus 6P died last night after Given the short support curve for most Android devices from Google and especially from third parties, that device is quite likely to be an iPhone. What was unthinkable to me just a few short years ago is now reality... I type this on a MBP and I might be convert my phone platform now as well. A true testament to the constant change in the marketplace, and the need to evaluate based o…

Just to provide a counterpoint: I'm still rocking a 3.5 year old Nexus 5 with almost zero evidence of its age (the battery discharges a bit faster than it used to but it's not noticeable enough to even warrant a new battery).

I loved my N5 but the battery wasn't user replaceable. I am not one to crack open my phone (plus the power switch died). I got a 5x .. decent phone but had speed slowdowns since day 1. I made the mistake of getting a 16 GB version (lack of expansion is mind boggling). I'm also disappointed with the Pixel's price. Might get an iPhone next.

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No nexus 6 support. Sad face. The shelf life of phones is embarrassingly low. For no apparent reason.

The iPhone 5s was released in 2013 and it should get iOS 11 this year. The iPhone 5, which came out in 2012, is currently supported. However, it might be dropped this year because it's not 64-bit. Android users should push for longer support. I had an original Nexus 1 and I was quite disappointed when it could no longer be upgraded. It cost me $600.

I had to stop using my Nexus One when it could no longer install updates due to the limited on-device storage. I'd still be using it, otherwise.

Re: Android O Beta Program

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No nexus 6 support. Sad face. The shelf life of phones is embarrassingly low. For no apparent reason.

The real issue for the Nexus 6 is that Qualcomm has completely abandoned their 32-bit mobile platforms. Look for "8084" here: https://wiki.codeaurora.org/xwiki/bin/QAEP/release - the Snapdragon 805 hasn't received a release since August 2016.

So, Google did an in-house bringup for 7.0 - and "normal" OEMs aren't able to do that. Qualcomm usually provides a lot of pre-compiled binaries to the OEM, which either require nasty hacks to work on newer versions of Android (which won't pass CTS - so can't be shipped), or just straight up don't work. The blame here rests largely with chip manufacturers and their short support cycles.

Of course, LineageOS[1] remains an option if you're looking for extended support for the Nexus 6. (disclaimer, I'm a device maintainer for Lineage)

[1]: https://lineageos.org/

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I'd still be using my Nexus 5 if all the antennas embedded in the back plate hadn't started losing their connections (no wireless charging, wifi and GPS signal are super-spotty).

Are they connected with leaf-spring contacts? If so, and if you haven't already, try cleaning the contacts with isopropyl, the closer to 100% the better. RF is screwy enough to be magical, and if there's skin oil or something on the contacts, that might be enough to cause the issues you're seeing.

The wifi connectors are something like MMX . The qxi charging coil is leaf spring. I still have my Nexus 5 after 3 years and it runs great. Would get a pixel but no wireless charging.

Re: Android O Beta Program

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My Nexus 6P died last night after Given the short support curve for most Android devices from Google and especially from third parties, that device is quite likely to be an iPhone. What was unthinkable to me just a few short years ago is now reality... I type this on a MBP and I might be convert my phone platform now as well. A true testament to the constant change in the marketplace, and the need to evaluate based o…

This has been also my gripe with Android. I have been developing for Android for over 5 years, and slowly switching to MBP, Xcode and iOS development since last year. And not turning back to Android dev for the meantime. My iPhone5s is still using the latest iOS version, so I have all the next several years to use this as a test device.

While Android on the other hand, I have countless dead phones because either Android N is not coming on it, especially Android O. And the Pixel phones from last 2 years is gonna be dead within this year. I feel like Google has no hope on how to solve this anymore. My minimum SDK is still at 19. My Android code has a lot of Build code check for backwards compatibility. Compared to my iOS code, there is completely none. Google should have address this issue since Marshmallow. But it is too late now.

And there is no Nexus phones here, so the devs here only has Samsung, LG and low cost phones which has no Google support.

Re: Android O Beta Program

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My Nexus 6P died last night after Given the short support curve for most Android devices from Google and especially from third parties, that device is quite likely to be an iPhone. What was unthinkable to me just a few short years ago is now reality... I type this on a MBP and I might be convert my phone platform now as well. A true testament to the constant change in the marketplace, and the need to evaluate based o…

A Nexus 4 handed down to my son recently stopped working when he dropped it, smashing the screen. Gave him my cast off Nexus 5 that was still storming great. My wife's Nexus 5 was working perfectly, though we replaced it with an iPhone 7 (to her great dismay, it turns out). My own Nexus 6P has worked perfectly, but for dev reasons I replaced it with a GS8 (which is simply a stunning device in every way, including the…

Why would you do data churning on a phone over a PC or laptop? Not being rude, I'm curious.

Re: Android O Beta Program

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The iPhone 5s was released in 2013 and it should get iOS 11 this year. The iPhone 5, which came out in 2012, is currently supported. However, it might be dropped this year because it's not 64-bit. Android users should push for longer support. I had an original Nexus 1 and I was quite disappointed when it could no longer be upgraded. It cost me $600.

I had to stop using my Nexus One when it could no longer install updates due to the limited on-device storage. I'd still be using it, otherwise.

The N1 was groundbreaking for me.

I took this shot of my Nexus One next to the new S8 Plus, highlighting 7 years of advance in technology:

http://i.imgur.com/sXnfBt4.jpg

Re: Android O Beta Program

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I'd still be using my Nexus 5 if all the antennas embedded in the back plate hadn't started losing their connections (no wireless charging, wifi and GPS signal are super-spotty).

Are they connected with leaf-spring contacts? If so, and if you haven't already, try cleaning the contacts with isopropyl, the closer to 100% the better. RF is screwy enough to be magical, and if there's skin oil or something on the contacts, that might be enough to cause the issues you're seeing.

Something like that. They actually look like they might have coiled springs providing tension to the leaves on the phone side, and then contacts kind of laminated on ribbon cables in the back panel.

- contacts visible in back cover (the 4 yellow contacts for wireless charging are the easiest to see): https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-RWgjtEwQYQ/maxresdefault.jpg

- spring-loaded contacts in the phone (3 around the camera, 2 on the opposite top corner, 4 match up with the wireless charging points): http://images.anandtech.com/doci/7517/Nexus5-1552.jpg

In mine, the back cover flexes, and contact isn't always maintained for all the connections. I've cleaned them with contact cleaner, and alcohol, tried bending the leaves to provide more pressure, etc. I also replaced the back at one point. Like the original, it would be fine for a while, then need readjustment. The body of the phone has a few thin, brittle parts, which started cracking (the back really wasn't designed to be removed often). I feel like the wear+tear on the phone body and constant mechanical maintenance just wasn't worth it.

Prior to opening the sucker because of the wireless charging not working, there shouldn't've been any finger oils on the contacts (or, I'd hope).

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