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An investigation into the economics of airplane seat reclining

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Re: An investigation into the economics of airplane seat reclining

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Post by marssaxman »

sanswork wrote: post #49
fivestar wrote: post #39

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I don't understand how you can discern any difference between the upright position and the 1-2" recline position. I think you may be kidding yourself.

If you can't notice the difference between a reclined and non-reclined seat you should probably get that checked out.

I can certainly tell whether or not the seat is reclined, but there is no perceptible difference in comfort: both modes are equally uncomfortable. I would guess that the previous poster meant something very similar, rather than hypothesizing some bizarre proprioceptive malfunction which left them unable to sense their body's angle of alignment to the floor, as you seem to have done.

Re: An investigation into the economics of airplane seat reclining

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Post by sanswork »

freehunter wrote: post #70
sanswork wrote: post #30

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The space the seat reclines into isn't your space.

I disagree. I could reach into that space when I sat down and now I can't. Think of it this way: my house has 8 foot ceilings. I'm only 6 foot tall, so I could lower my ceilings by almost two feet and not hit my head. But it would certainly impact my comfort level inside my house.

You can reach into the space next to you before someone sits down too. Does that make it your space or their space that they haven't occupied yet?

Re: An investigation into the economics of airplane seat reclining

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Post by sanswork »

Markoff wrote: post #64
sanswork wrote: post #52

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They paid for the space taken up when the seat reclined if your legs don't fit in that space they you need to buy another seat or pressure airlines to start better serving people of your size. It's not the person in front of you who is at fault it is everyone that has ever done a ticket search and sorted from lowest price to highest.

i am no special person, i am pretty skinny so they have low fuel expenses on me compared to some short fat people and i have no problem to travel with reasonable polite people who won't recline seat for someone much taller seeing behind them but ok, let's stop being polite and charge people per kg of weight if we do this already with baggage, at least fat people will have motivation to stop eating, not sure what unhe…

There is nothing impolite about using a space you paid for. I don't see how charging by weight would improve your situation any. You're still trying to fly in a seat that doesn't fit your body.

Re: An investigation into the economics of airplane seat reclining

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Post by notyourwork »

Arizhel wrote: post #37
notyourwork wrote: post #36

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What is this blasphemy of treating humans like humans. It is crazy how many overly dramatic articles and situations could probably be resolved by simply civil dialog and discussion.

Because about half the time the response is extremely uncivil, so people are afraid to try the civil approach. So people do just as you say: treat humans like humans. Since humans are largely evil, that results in the behavior we see.

Is it evil or selfish? I think selfishness can be perceived as evil but I don't think people are intentionally evil to others. I think humans are inherently selfish which makes other's feel as though one's actions are evil.

"Treat humans like humans" also is defined based on where and how you were raised.

Re: An investigation into the economics of airplane seat reclining

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Post by Markoff »

sanswork wrote: post #73
Markoff wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i am no special person, i am pretty skinny so they have low fuel expenses on me compared to some short fat people and i have no problem to travel with reasonable polite people who won't recline seat for someone much taller seeing behind them but ok, let's stop being polite and charge people per kg of weight if we do this already with baggage, at least fat people will have motivation to stop eating, not sure what unhe…

There is nothing impolite about using a space you paid for. I don't see how charging by weight would improve your situation any. You're still trying to fly in a seat that doesn't fit your body.

well hurting someone (by pushing your seat on their legs) unless it is necessary (which it is not in case of reclining, you can just sit as fine without reclining) is impolite by standards of most civilized countries

but maybe in your country causing unnecessary discomfort to other person is being polite...

Re: An investigation into the economics of airplane seat reclining

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Post by Markoff »

hueving wrote: post #60
Markoff wrote: post #51

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no, you buy seat with space for your legs, if someone is taking my space for legs he is taking something I paid for they paid for space in front of their seat up to back of the seat in front of them

You are confused about what you paid for. You can ask the flight attendant and the person who reclines is in the right.

well I can just leave there my legs and they won't recline the seat, I don't think there is some regulation about people over certain height mandatory booking higher class, so one would assume expecting someone not hurting me would be easier to communicate for airline than trying to defend such selfish person

but who knows, I don't fly with US airlines which are famous for quality of their service and maybe in US it is normal to side with person who wanna hurt others

Re: An investigation into the economics of airplane seat reclining

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Post by sanswork »

Markoff wrote: post #75
sanswork wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is nothing impolite about using a space you paid for. I don't see how charging by weight would improve your situation any. You're still trying to fly in a seat that doesn't fit your body.

well hurting someone (by pushing your seat on their legs) unless it is necessary (which it is not in case of reclining, you can just sit as fine without reclining) is impolite by standards of most civilized countries but maybe in your country causing unnecessary discomfort to other person is being polite...

Imposing on other people's space to save money is impolite to me.

Re: An investigation into the economics of airplane seat reclining

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Post by sanswork »

marssaxman wrote: post #71
sanswork wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you can't notice the difference between a reclined and non-reclined seat you should probably get that checked out.

I can certainly tell whether or not the seat is reclined, but there is no perceptible difference in comfort : both modes are equally uncomfortable. I would guess that the previous poster meant something very similar, rather than hypothesizing some bizarre proprioceptive malfunction which left them unable to sense their body's angle of alignment to the floor, as you seem to have done.

That's unfortunate for you and the other poster but given the popularity of reclining I'm going to have to think you're in the minority.
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