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An investigation into the economics of airplane seat reclining

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Re: An investigation into the economics of airplane seat reclining

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Post by Markoff »

sanswork wrote: post #50
Markoff wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's not about my preference if you hit me with your reclined seat it's like saying I am making smoker less comfortable based on my own preference that I wanna breathe clean air, he is disrupting clean enviroment, you are disrupting good relations by reclining, I have no problem to not recline for person behind me, because once you do it everyone behind you have to do it to gain a little space the first person who st…

It's not like that at all in this case the person in front of you has paid for that space you are occupying. It was never your space to begin with.

no, you buy seat with space for your legs, if someone is taking my space for legs he is taking something I paid for

they paid for space in front of their seat up to back of the seat in front of them

Re: An investigation into the economics of airplane seat reclining

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Post by sanswork »

Markoff wrote: post #51
sanswork wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not like that at all in this case the person in front of you has paid for that space you are occupying. It was never your space to begin with.

no, you buy seat with space for your legs, if someone is taking my space for legs he is taking something I paid for they paid for space in front of their seat up to back of the seat in front of them

They paid for the space taken up when the seat reclined if your legs don't fit in that space they you need to buy another seat or pressure airlines to start better serving people of your size. It's not the person in front of you who is at fault it is everyone that has ever done a ticket search and sorted from lowest price to highest.

Re: An investigation into the economics of airplane seat reclining

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Post by supergeek133 »

fivestar wrote: post #44
supergeek133 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depending on the airplane/seat, it actually makes my legs have a tighter fit. I'm 6'2". Whenever I fly for work I usually pay the extra money for a better seat personally. I typically don't recline my seat on a plane, because in most cases it makes my ride less comfortable to be behind someone who reclines.

That's just the thing "pay the extra money"--okay, fine, but we are doing this all time just to get back to where we were a few years ago minus the "pay the extra money" part of the equation. It's not just airlines that are screwing us, but grocery chains come quickly to mind, and basically any place where the runaway inflation is being passed on to us all the while everyone thinks this is "normal" and "fine" and all…

I don't really have a choice if I want to use air travel.

Or my other choice is be (more) uncomfortable.

Re: An investigation into the economics of airplane seat reclining

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Post by supergeek133 »

pklausler wrote: post #6

I'm happy to not recline my seat when I'm sitting in steerage, unless the human sitting in front of me reclines. So it's not about making a deal with whomever sits before you; instead, it's about making a deal with everybody in your column and lower row number, at least up to an exit row. All it takes is one recliner to ruin it for everybody.

Exactly. Numerous times over the past two years as I've traveled more for work I've had to out loud say the phrase: "We're all in this together".

Re: An investigation into the economics of airplane seat reclining

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Post by xienze »

sanswork wrote: post #49
fivestar wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand how you can discern any difference between the upright position and the 1-2" recline position. I think you may be kidding yourself.

If you can't notice the difference between a reclined and non-reclined seat you should probably get that checked out.

I agree with the parent. I remember many years ago that the seats could recline a noticeable amount. Now it's like an inch.

Re: An investigation into the economics of airplane seat reclining

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Post by mrep »

UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #21
woliveirajr wrote: post #13

If you suffer from lumbar (or any other region) pain in your column, reclining or not is a huge difference. I never had problems about knees getting closer or not, etc., but having suffered from lumbar pain for a part of my life, I can assure you that reclining or not has a big impact. No, it doesn't mean that pain -> need to recline. Sometimes it gets better keeping it straight, sometimes you get relief when you rec…

> I never had problems about knees getting closer or not But other people do, that's the point. I'm only 6'1 but with long legs, if someone reclines in front they're literally on top of my knees the entire flight. When turbulence occurs they bounce up and down on my knees. I try to book exit rows and Economy+ when budget allows, but for all other times I take painkillers and just have to let my knees get damaged by t…

So should the smallest/cheapest seat be designed for shaq to sit in it?

Why should smaller people be forced to pay for bigger seats that they do not need?

Re: An investigation into the economics of airplane seat reclining

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Post by ghaff »

dandare wrote: post #38

The whole situation is ridiculous - the airlines clearly know if they sold you the right to recline or not, if they only stopped being so damn ambiguous about the rules there would be no fights.

What's ambiguous? Airlines let you recline except during takeoff and landing. However, various people argue that just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Re: An investigation into the economics of airplane seat reclining

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Post by hueving »

supergeek133 wrote: post #54
pklausler wrote: post #6

I'm happy to not recline my seat when I'm sitting in steerage, unless the human sitting in front of me reclines. So it's not about making a deal with whomever sits before you; instead, it's about making a deal with everybody in your column and lower row number, at least up to an exit row. All it takes is one recliner to ruin it for everybody.

Exactly. Numerous times over the past two years as I've traveled more for work I've had to out loud say the phrase: "We're all in this together".

Who did you say that to? If it was to the person in front of you, you're being an asshole. Just recline your seat or deal with the reduced space in front of you.

If you want more room between you and the seat in front of you, pay for it. Don't try to guilt the person in front of you to make their own flight uncomfortable for sleeping to please you. That's selfish.

Re: An investigation into the economics of airplane seat reclining

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Post by hueving »

UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #21
woliveirajr wrote: post #13

If you suffer from lumbar (or any other region) pain in your column, reclining or not is a huge difference. I never had problems about knees getting closer or not, etc., but having suffered from lumbar pain for a part of my life, I can assure you that reclining or not has a big impact. No, it doesn't mean that pain -> need to recline. Sometimes it gets better keeping it straight, sometimes you get relief when you rec…

> I never had problems about knees getting closer or not But other people do, that's the point. I'm only 6'1 but with long legs, if someone reclines in front they're literally on top of my knees the entire flight. When turbulence occurs they bounce up and down on my knees. I try to book exit rows and Economy+ when budget allows, but for all other times I take painkillers and just have to let my knees get damaged by t…

That's not her problem, it's yours. If you can't fit in the seat in the different possible configurations, you need to pay extra or not fly.

Re: An investigation into the economics of airplane seat reclining

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Post by hueving »

Markoff wrote: post #51
sanswork wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not like that at all in this case the person in front of you has paid for that space you are occupying. It was never your space to begin with.

no, you buy seat with space for your legs, if someone is taking my space for legs he is taking something I paid for they paid for space in front of their seat up to back of the seat in front of them

You are confused about what you paid for. You can ask the flight attendant and the person who reclines is in the right.
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