I imagine Unity will live on in some way with a Ubuntu flavor called Uubuntu.
Ubuntu 17.04 review
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#112I predict a resurgence of interest in KDE. ... despite the numerous Plasma crashes lately.
I revisit Kde every few years to see if they have finally managed to get hold of a designer. Since I use Unity and prefer it to OSX on my retina macbook and Windows 10 desktop, the recent announcement sent me on one of my visits.
I tried Kde Neon and was gobsmacked by the scale of change. With a few settings and a within a few minutes I was able to make it look and behave quite a bit like Unity. This was not the same KDE I remember.
It has improved dramatically and while the default is good you can feel the sheer flexibility of the underlying desktop. Kudos to the KDE team.
Unfortunately the Internet has a long memory and many will continue to repeat outdated information.
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In 2013, when I have first chosen gnome, it was to replace the PC of my old parents. I have contributed to a gnome extension (translated in french) https://bitbucket.org/LukasKnuth/backslide to make it looks like their previous computer on windows XP. AFAIK, ubuntu gnome is very stripped down by default, but it is easy to tailor to fit many needs. The extensions are often written in javascript.
I don't want to have to have a bunch of extensions to make my OS work. It's especially troubling because Linux is the first Linux OS most people try
The trouble is, that different people have different ideas what 'make OS work' means. An essential feature of yours is other's bloat. Hence extensions.
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Let me rephrase it in less condescending terms (or, more accurately, /different/ condescending terms): Apple users want to get shit done, instead of compiling custom kernels to fix font rendering issues when using Wifi while headphones are plugged in. "Pro user" means, for Apple, s/o using a computer to create something. It is not someone who's a professional at using computers, i. e. constantly optimising their 20+…
Agreed here. I have compiled probably a half dozen linux kernels in the last 15 years, and especially in college, tried many flavors of linux. So I've historically not been intimidated by tinkering. But now that I have a career that relies on getting stuff done, and don't have time to play with kernel modules and window managers just to get my computer running in a stable way. I have zero patience with the clusterf*c…
For the record, since macOS 10.12.4, I get to enjoy tearing on a rMBP13, on both built-in and external display. So no, this stuff was not being figured out 10 years ago.
By the same token, the last time I compiled a Linux kernel, it was 2001 in calendar, or something like that. Since then, the distribution provided ones are fine. Even if it means running 3.10 in 2017. It works, it's fine.
Re: Ubuntu 17.04 review
#115If you want to get a head start on the future of Ubuntu, check out Ubuntu GNOME[1]. It's an official distribution of Ubuntu and where it's heading. [1]: https://ubuntugnome.org/
already using ubuntu gnome since 2013 because I did not like unity. I am so glad this is becoming the main flavour of ubuntu. If I have well understood, any new installation of ubuntu should use ubuntu gnome in order to be future proof. Or am I missing something ?
The majority should stick with what they have been running, even Unity which will be supported for many years as part of 16.04.
The 17.10, being the first version with Gnome Shell, will probably have rough edges for those that are used to Unity.
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or you could use almost any other flavor of ubuntu, since it is highly doubtful they will be going anywhere any time soon. I personally prefer Lubuntu, or LXDE installed over Unity.
Are there any problems if you install LXDE/XFCE on a normal Ubuntu installation?
I cant speak for XFCE, but LDXE installed flawlessly on a normal Ubuntu installation.
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I believe that the reason that Ubuntu is winning the server market is because it won the desktop market. Ubuntu is on most production servers because devs are more familiar with Ubuntu than alternatives since they use Ubuntu on their desktop. That's certainly the reason why I use Ubuntu or Debian on all the production servers I've spun up. I'm sure Ubuntu is well aware of this issue, and of course they're also dog-fo…
At work I have to use CentOS. And CentOS 6 at that. The amount of old packages is painful. Ubuntu servers can be upgraded in place, CentOS means reinstall every time. Also, there's a PPA for everything in Ubuntu. Therefore for my laptop and for all personal projects, I use Ubuntu. CentOS only brings me painful memories.
You're lucky. Until very recently, I had to work on CentOS 5 which was very frustrating. To make it more bearable, I compiled from source and installed modern versions of non-server software for personal use, e.g., Vim, GNU screen, Bash, etc. At home, I'm happy running Lubuntu on my laptop.
Re: Ubuntu 17.04 review
#118> While speed may be the single most important element of a UI, there is plenty about GNOME that is going to disappoint Unity users. The biggest gripe I have is keyboard shortcuts. Unity had them in spades. For as graphical as Unity is/was, it was also very easy to drive without taking your hands off the keyboard. GNOME lacks that level of shortcuts. Can we please fix this before the convergence? Muscle memory and Li…
I replaced Unity with i3 and have been living happily ever after. https://i3wm.org/
+1 although an Ubuntu user since it's very first release, i3wm has been my go-to productivity DE for the last 5 years or so. Plus it's multiple-monitor support is superb, much more useful than Unity's
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Are there any problems if you install LXDE/XFCE on a normal Ubuntu installation?
I cant speak for XFCE, but LDXE installed flawlessly on a normal Ubuntu installation.
Thank you. I tried it too, and it installed great, but in the process of tweaking one of the two, I changed some setting for appearance and now Unity has a weird theme.
I think I liked LXDE more than XFCE, though. I will play with them some more and see, thank you.
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xfce (Xubuntu) hasn't unexpectedly changed on me in about 10 years. YMMV but I haven't been surprised once and haven't seen any features in other DEs I wish it had.
Agreed. Except for that horrible screen tearing.
As in the horrible screen tearing surprisingly went away? That's what happened for me. Is it still a common issue?