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Opera is Reborn

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Re: Opera is Reborn

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Post by degenerate »

nbdev wrote: post #86
gagabity wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think what they are describing there runs before the uninstall does it not? Pretty sure mine was after the uninstall completed, which is not possible since the app is already gone by that point.

There are actually networks of unrelated apps that listen for uninstalls. I was contacted by a company wanting to add their SDK to my apps, partly for this purpose. Uninstall activity is just another thing being monitored.

So that's why there are 999 versions of 'flashlight' app. Not because everyone wanted to develop it, but because we now have the equivalent of pre-packaged bloatware/malware for the desktop, now for the phone.

Thanks for chiming in. I didn't know this kind of company or business model existed, so now I will be more wary about installing seemingly benign apps. (I am not an app developer).

Re: Opera is Reborn

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Post by niutech »

ReverseCold wrote: post #235
eis wrote: post #216

The main driver for innovation and growth of the open web was that it is open. The diversity we got from that was tremendous. Anyone could make a website with whatever content they could think of and people all over the world could access it. There was some kind of "web neutrality" in browsers. They didn't prefer one site over the other. The second big boost came from extendability and customizability of browsers thr…

Vivaldi is a pretty good replacement for old Opera. Its based on the latest chromium (updated within a day or so of downstream updates), and has a lot of the "power user" features Opera had.

Another good replacement for legacy Opera is a very lightweight and cross-platform Otter Browser (http://otter-browser.org).

Re: Opera is Reborn

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Post by LordKano »

I guess it's time for me to be a crotchety old man again.

Opera lost me when the followed Chrome in the elimination of the menu bar. If they haven't rectified that, I'll stick with Firefox.

Re: Opera is Reborn

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

kbenson wrote: post #249
JustSomeNobody wrote: post #207

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Until messenger apps start using the same, open, protocol, we won't see this.

That is, until they go back to using similar and open protocols, we won't see this again . That's the sad part, there was a concerted push away from this by quite a few of the major players (either initially, or in response to others, or for technical reasons, or a combination thereof). :/

"Technical reasons" such as vendor lock-in ...

Re: Opera is Reborn

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Post by mikestew »

tnone wrote: post #189
TeMPOraL wrote: post #165

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> Or, since we all have widescreen monitors (and often multiple monitors) you could just have your messengers in a window next to the browser instead of a sidebar within the browser. Except that - unless you're on a tiling WM on Linux - your window manager sucks, and solution like this is barely usable (hard to keep the windows properly aligned, hard to have them simultaneously on the foreground when other windows co…

I'm on OSX and it magnetically snaps windows together as they get close. Makes it easy to divide ad hoc. As for messengers, what would be revolutionary is if you could actually use all these fragmented messengers in a single app.

As for messengers, what would be revolutionary is if you could actually use all these fragmented messengers in a single app.

Since you're on macOS, that would have been the built-in iChat app that could do Jabber, AIM, Yahoo!, and some other protocols I've forgotten. It might still work in modern day Messages, dunno, pretty much no one uses them anymore so I can't check.

Re: Opera is Reborn

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Post by alexvoda »

jasikpark wrote: post #222
tnone wrote: post #189

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I'm on OSX and it magnetically snaps windows together as they get close. Makes it easy to divide ad hoc. As for messengers, what would be revolutionary is if you could actually use all these fragmented messengers in a single app.

I mean... there is Franz. https://meetfranz.com

Or if you don't trust it and want an open source alternative compatible with more services try Rambox: http://rambox.pro/ And maybe even donate.

Re: Opera is Reborn

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Post by bwat49 »

eis wrote: post #216

The main driver for innovation and growth of the open web was that it is open. The diversity we got from that was tremendous. Anyone could make a website with whatever content they could think of and people all over the world could access it. There was some kind of "web neutrality" in browsers. They didn't prefer one site over the other. The second big boost came from extendability and customizability of browsers thr…

> You can't completely get rid of them

You can, just right click and remove the icon from the sidebar. They are literally just glorified links to websites (e.g. if you click the messenger icon on the sidebar, it's literally just loading messenger.com as a web panel).

Re: Opera is Reborn

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Post by xphx »

LordKano wrote: post #253

I guess it's time for me to be a crotchety old man again. Opera lost me when the followed Chrome in the elimination of the menu bar. If they haven't rectified that, I'll stick with Firefox.

What is a menu bar offering you that makes or breaks a program for you versus several political, philosophical, ideological, practical, and technical other differences?

Re: Opera is Reborn

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Post by LordKano »

xphx wrote: post #258
LordKano wrote: post #253

I guess it's time for me to be a crotchety old man again. Opera lost me when the followed Chrome in the elimination of the menu bar. If they haven't rectified that, I'll stick with Firefox.

What is a menu bar offering you that makes or breaks a program for you versus several political, philosophical, ideological, practical, and technical other differences?

UI Consistency.

Re: Opera is Reborn

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

symmetricsaurus wrote: post #242
devopsproject wrote: post #240

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does your camera have an LED? It is supposed to be wired up in a way that the camera cannot be powered up without also turning the led on so you know it is active.

Sometimes the LED can be turned off even if the camera is on. But that may require some extra sneakyness.

There's​ simple flag you can set now to control most LEDs on Linux.

Eg http://www.0xf8.org/2009/09/the-shortcomings-of-the-linux-le....

FWIW didn't work for my WiFi, had to use an alternative (modprobe.conf maybe?).

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