11M people voted for Le Pen. This number is terrifyingly high.
For context, in the 2012 election, total votes in 2nd round was 34,861,353, out of a population of 66.81M (now). I couldn't find the total voting population easily.
French election: Macron defeats Le Pen
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Re: French election: Macron defeats Le Pen
#52Had France "fallen," EU would have been toast. Together with Germany they are the main pillars of EU. As bad as EU is, eventually they will get along just fine...or a least just as United States of America do.
> As bad as EU is, eventually they will get along just fine...or a least just as United Sates of America do. The difference is that in USA they speak the same language and even this way they are not as homogenous as they seem from outside. In Europe you have huge economical and cultural differences between certain states, bad blood for historical reasons between some nations and so on.
Re: French election: Macron defeats Le Pen
#53Had France "fallen," EU would have been toast. Together with Germany they are the main pillars of EU. As bad as EU is, eventually they will get along just fine...or a least just as United States of America do.
> As bad as EU is, eventually they will get along just fine...or a least just as United Sates of America do. The difference is that in USA they speak the same language and even this way they are not as homogenous as they seem from outside. In Europe you have huge economical and cultural differences between certain states, bad blood for historical reasons between some nations and so on.
Re: French election: Macron defeats Le Pen
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a European I see this as a huge concern. Choosing Macron means keeping the status quo, which means continued mass immigration, continued bad economic policy, etc... in Europe. I am sure the bankers will be glad as will the European Commission and the multinationals, but the common people will become disillusioned in a few years as more and more terrorist attacks will happen into Europe and the problems with the ec…
I don't agree with the downvotes you are receiving, you make some good overall points (but also some bad ones). Nothing is dead until it is entirely dead, and the EU idea still runs strong in people. Things need to change, as Brexit and the recent problems faced by the union have shown. Now it's down to the time to reform. I don't think Macron is choosing the status quo though, hes as much as a political outsider as…
Macron was and investment banker and a Minister of Economy. I suppose our definitions of outsider are really different.
Re: French election: Macron defeats Le Pen
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a European I see this as a huge concern. Choosing Macron means keeping the status quo, which means continued mass immigration, continued bad economic policy, etc... in Europe. I am sure the bankers will be glad as will the European Commission and the multinationals, but the common people will become disillusioned in a few years as more and more terrorist attacks will happen into Europe and the problems with the ec…
How can one profit off of the collapse of the European Union?
Re: French election: Macron defeats Le Pen
#5611M people voted for Le Pen. This number is terrifyingly high.
If Sarkozy didn't change the regime of Libya by bombing based on lies which are still under cover by main stream media, there might be no such an immigration wave caused by war and chaos. Today main stream media still try to avoid to associate their bias reports with the change in public opinion. It seems to me that main stream media is part of if not all of reasons caused such situation today.
Re: French election: Macron defeats Le Pen
#5711M people voted for Le Pen. This number is terrifyingly high.
Re: French election: Macron defeats Le Pen
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
> As bad as EU is, eventually they will get along just fine...or a least just as United Sates of America do. The difference is that in USA they speak the same language and even this way they are not as homogenous as they seem from outside. In Europe you have huge economical and cultural differences between certain states, bad blood for historical reasons between some nations and so on.
In Switzerland they speak four different languages and that doesn't seem to be a problem.
I bet that people in Switzerland have more in common (economically and culturally) than people from Bulgaria and France have for example.
Re: French election: Macron defeats Le Pen
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't agree with the downvotes you are receiving, you make some good overall points (but also some bad ones). Nothing is dead until it is entirely dead, and the EU idea still runs strong in people. Things need to change, as Brexit and the recent problems faced by the union have shown. Now it's down to the time to reform. I don't think Macron is choosing the status quo though, hes as much as a political outsider as…
What exactly "needs to change"? When I see people complain about the EU it's usually about "the EU taking their sovereignty and imposing stuff on them". So if "things are going to change" that means the EU would have to become less like the U.S. (a federal entity), and more like an aggregate of wildly different cultures and regulations (so more like the pre-EU Europe). Is that really a good thing? And do things "need…
What it can't be is something in the middle, like it's now.
Re: French election: Macron defeats Le Pen
#60Had France "fallen," EU would have been toast. Together with Germany they are the main pillars of EU. As bad as EU is, eventually they will get along just fine...or a least just as United States of America do.
> As bad as EU is, eventually they will get along just fine...or a least just as United Sates of America do. The difference is that in USA they speak the same language and even this way they are not as homogenous as they seem from outside. In Europe you have huge economical and cultural differences between certain states, bad blood for historical reasons between some nations and so on.
The bad blood I can understand...they did this to us in WWI WWII and as soon as they get the chance it will happen again. It's legitimate.
The language IMO is less of an issue as who travels or works outside their country manages just fine. The new generation is doing to show their English skills in FB and Instagram.
Economical and cultural differences do exist in USA, sometimes you think you are in a different country, and quite a bit of laws are local.