65% to 34%, mauled.
34% is way too much for a fascist like Le Pen.
French election: Macron defeats Le Pen
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Re: French election: Macron defeats Le Pen
#12The battle was between people from anywhere - bourgeoise globalists and proletariat immigrants - and people from somewhere - the native French. The 'anywheres' have imported so many ideological allies that the result was inevitable.
A good analysis is here: https://www.city-journal.org/html/french-coming-apart-15125....
Re: French election: Macron defeats Le Pen
#13Did she set up concentration camps or plans to?
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#14I'm curious how things work? This is just a prediction? Is this an official exit poll?
Polls close at 7pm except in larger cities, but counting of votes start at this time. It's forbidden to leak the results until 8pm, at which time the sample is large enough to give a precise estimate, unlikely to move by much.
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#15Had France "fallen," EU would have been toast. Together with Germany they are the main pillars of EU.
As bad as EU is, eventually they will get along just fine...or a least just as United States of America do.
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#1665% to 34%, mauled.
Not that much of a mauling by FN standards, when her father reached the 2nd round in 2002 he got 18%, that's a serious improvement of the party's result.
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#17As a European this comes as a huge relief, especially given the poorly-timed email leak (with Russian names in the metadata). Here's to hoping that Europe can continue working together and begin to reform itself, and not tear itself apart like some of our American 'allies' on the (alt-)right would like. Lots of challenges ahead, but we wouldn't want it to be too easy now would we?
Any 12 year old kiddie can change meta data on files. Faking meta data to place false clues is intelligence service 101 as documented by many NSA/CIA leaks.
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Re: French election: Macron defeats Le Pen
#18As a European this comes as a huge relief, especially given the poorly-timed email leak (with Russian names in the metadata). Here's to hoping that Europe can continue working together and begin to reform itself, and not tear itself apart like some of our American 'allies' on the (alt-)right would like. Lots of challenges ahead, but we wouldn't want it to be too easy now would we?
Any 12 year old kiddie can change meta data on files. Faking meta data to place false clues is intelligence service 101 as documented by many NSA/CIA leaks.
Sure, but if documents supposedly belonging to French political actors have Russian names in the metadata, it means they were tampered with. It doesn't matter if the tampering was done by Russia or by the USA; either way, those documents are not authentic, which means the whole "look what we found when we hacked his email" story is a fraud.
Re: French election: Macron defeats Le Pen
#19As a European this comes as a huge relief, especially given the poorly-timed email leak (with Russian names in the metadata). Here's to hoping that Europe can continue working together and begin to reform itself, and not tear itself apart like some of our American 'allies' on the (alt-)right would like. Lots of challenges ahead, but we wouldn't want it to be too easy now would we?
As a European I see this as a huge concern. Choosing Macron means keeping the status quo, which means continued mass immigration, continued bad economic policy, etc... in Europe. I am sure the bankers will be glad as will the European Commission and the multinationals, but the common people will become disillusioned in a few years as more and more terrorist attacks will happen into Europe and the problems with the economic policy if the EU will become more visible (the mass printing of money by Draghi and forcing countries buy bad bonds to cover this pyramid scheme).
But -for me personally- I'd say it's a good thing. As I stated before, choosing Macron means keeping up with the status quo and I intend to leave Europe for Asia next year (I have an Asian girlfriend and daughter). I do realise that if Le Pen would be chosen now there would be unrest in the Economic markets, the EU, etc... So for me personally it will be a good time to just make a bit more money before leaving permanently.
In the end the choice for Macron will only delay the inevitable though. The EU is dead, it just doesn't realise it yet. The only problem is: the longer it takes for the EU to collapse, the messier it will become.
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#2011M people voted for Le Pen. This number is terrifyingly high.