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Instagram Is Becoming Facebook’s Next Facebook

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Re: Instagram Is Becoming Facebook’s Next Facebook

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Post by ruminasean »

ohstopitu wrote: post #98
ismail wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I attended a conference where a speaker was someone from FB. One of the slides that stood out for me was a pic of 3 teens sitting in the most picturesque environment on a picnic blanket. All of them with their noses stuck in phones. This is what FB and instagram is about, getting you on the mouse wheel of usage so they can sell your attention.

and is that so bad? As in, this is like how our parents used to say "you are glued to the TV" and that's exactly what TV channels wanted...to sell your attention.

Well sure, but eventually you'd get kicked out of the house and have to go outside, away from TV. Now TV is in your pocket, wherever you go. They can kick today's kids out of the house, they go to the nearest spot out of sight and....watch ads all day.

Re: Instagram Is Becoming Facebook’s Next Facebook

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Post by [deleted] »

ohstopitu wrote: post #98
ismail wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I attended a conference where a speaker was someone from FB. One of the slides that stood out for me was a pic of 3 teens sitting in the most picturesque environment on a picnic blanket. All of them with their noses stuck in phones. This is what FB and instagram is about, getting you on the mouse wheel of usage so they can sell your attention.

and is that so bad? As in, this is like how our parents used to say "you are glued to the TV" and that's exactly what TV channels wanted...to sell your attention.

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Re: Instagram Is Becoming Facebook’s Next Facebook

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Post by ryanwaggoner »

metehe wrote: post #96

Im worryed of facebook and google how much they dominate the social media. Worryed about they behavier and actions to violate privacy, modify opinions and force they way in technology. Why people follow these violators ? Why advertisers put money on this ? Sorry, facebook and google are for me big no no. I can't understand why people use these platforms. Why not to use alternatives ? I hope people would think before…

People use them because that's what everyone else uses. With a social network, that's kind of the point.

And for whatever reason, most people don't care that much about the things you listed as big dangers.

Re: Instagram Is Becoming Facebook’s Next Facebook

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Post by CuriouslyC »

criddell wrote: post #95
asquabventured wrote: post #27

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I guess Email or text messages are no longer cool?

Email and text messages? Are you too good for faxes and telegrams? Email and text messages both suffer from the problem that they are controlled by the sender. Facebook flips this. The wall reflects what I want to see.

Actually, it reflects what Facebook wants you to see. They might take your interests into account in order to maximize the potential for ad exposure, but you're definitely not in charge.

Re: Instagram Is Becoming Facebook’s Next Facebook

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Post by CuriouslyC »

ryanwaggoner wrote: post #100
psyc wrote: post #97

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I don't get it either. I can only assume it's either a generational thing, or me not understanding things most people like. I've gone back, looked at, and tried to understand it several times, and I just can't see why I'd want to look at it or use it. "I want everybody to see this photo I took" "Cheers, I have seen your photo" I guess that's extremely compelling to folks.

"I want everyone to read this comment I wrote." "Cheers, I have read your comment."

Comments are more likely to be a vehicle for raising awareness about something meaningful than pictures.

Re: Instagram Is Becoming Facebook’s Next Facebook

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Post by a_imho »

I only have second hand experience with Instagram, but it feels they got product placement right. I regularly see people asking where they could buy the dresses/accessories/gifts featured in the photos, actively following brands instead of blocking what ads shovel in their face.

Re: Instagram Is Becoming Facebook’s Next Facebook

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Post by carlesfe »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #105
ryanwaggoner wrote: post #100

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"I want everyone to read this comment I wrote." "Cheers, I have read your comment."

Comments are more likely to be a vehicle for raising awareness about something meaningful than pictures.

That's where new generations disagree with you :)

Re: Instagram Is Becoming Facebook’s Next Facebook

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Post by CuriouslyC »

arjie wrote: post #59
icebraining wrote: post #55

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Maybe not other games, but surely he spends the money somewhere. Hence the claim that ads extract profit margins from all other industries.

Do you, really? For most of the people I know, our entertainment budget is fairly flexible. If I'd spend £100 on something and if I wanted it, I'm probably not going to spend £100 on my second choice thing. In fact, I may not spend anything at all and just choose to spend my time on things I've already spent money on like going out to skate or something. Mostly the cash budget is substantially higher than the time bu…

Advertising in the real world is unquestionably negative. Almost all advertising works by creating a sense of lack where none previously existed, or co-opting your decision making process by creating gratuitous associations. Advertising that accurately reflects the merits of a product in an unbiased way doesn't "work".

I am not opposed to the idea of advertising, but what we have now is really a form of manipulation rather than information.

Re: Instagram Is Becoming Facebook’s Next Facebook

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Post by psyc »

ryanwaggoner wrote: post #100
psyc wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get it either. I can only assume it's either a generational thing, or me not understanding things most people like. I've gone back, looked at, and tried to understand it several times, and I just can't see why I'd want to look at it or use it. "I want everybody to see this photo I took" "Cheers, I have seen your photo" I guess that's extremely compelling to folks.

"I want everyone to read this comment I wrote." "Cheers, I have read your comment."

That illustrates what I'm getting at, because I can't see the similarity. When I read a comment, I can become informed about something or be challenged. When I see someone's photo of just about anything ... that's where I draw a blank. It would be a different story perhaps if I took the time to curate a follow-list that was all computer graphicists and mathematicians, but that's what I use Twitter for.

Re: Instagram Is Becoming Facebook’s Next Facebook

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Post by criddell »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #104
criddell wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Email and text messages? Are you too good for faxes and telegrams? Email and text messages both suffer from the problem that they are controlled by the sender. Facebook flips this. The wall reflects what I want to see.

Actually, it reflects what Facebook wants you to see. They might take your interests into account in order to maximize the potential for ad exposure, but you're definitely not in charge.

I have enough control. If Facebook doesn't do a good job, I don't return.
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