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Instagram Is Becoming Facebook’s Next Facebook

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Re: Instagram Is Becoming Facebook’s Next Facebook

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Post by H4CK3RM4N »

dualogy wrote: post #81
H4CK3RM4N wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have to say that Duck Duck Go feels a lot more like early Google than Google does now(it feels more like querying a database than asking a machine a question). I could see them taking lots of the 'pro' search traffic, especially with their bangs and the way they still just use Stack Overflow answers/Wikipedia articles for their preferred results instead of attempting to remix them.

DDG is my default because the majority of my searches are specifically coding-related (as in, type the name of api and class and function or some such) and fact-based stuff (wiki, scientific articles whatever). But more often than not, for the more fuzzier queries I get the most useless results and have to manually go over to Google

Add !g before the search and it redirects you. You can also use !bangs to find more.

Re: Instagram Is Becoming Facebook’s Next Facebook

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Post by ismail »

l33tbro wrote: post #15

It's disappointing that tech journalists don't go a bit harder at the founders when writing pieces like these. Sure, it's interesting to find out about Instagram's internal processes and their projections, but Facebook is becoming increasingly regarded as being the main contributor to a new kind of social malaise. Therefore, if Instagram is aspiring to that level of adoption, how can questions like this not be put to…

I attended a conference where a speaker was someone from FB. One of the slides that stood out for me was a pic of 3 teens sitting in the most picturesque environment on a picnic blanket. All of them with their noses stuck in phones.

This is what FB and instagram is about, getting you on the mouse wheel of usage so they can sell your attention.

Re: Instagram Is Becoming Facebook’s Next Facebook

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Post by jpatokal »

adventured wrote: post #79
victorvation wrote: post #44

> More precisely, it feels the way Facebook did from 2009 to 2012, when it silently crossed over from one of those tech things that some people sometimes did to one of those tech things that everyone you know does every day. Ubiquity is an interesting thought - there are very few apps that an average person uses on a daily basis that _aren't_ owned by Facebook. Four of the most used apps (Facebook, Messenger, Instagr…

> What happens when Facebook does similar and Mark Zuckerberg controls nearly every waking moment of most Americans? Who is the Apple to the United States v. Facebook monopoly? That's called jumping the shark. In this context, the point in time where people get so concerned about a powerful company, that a form of outlandish and irrational fear starts to set in. See: IBM 1970s, early 1980s; Microsoft late 1990s; Goog…

That's not called jumping the shark. Jumping the shark is when something formerly cool/great (originally, Fonzie in TV sitcom Happy Days) does something so blatantly stupid (originally, jumping over a shark on water skis) that it becomes painfully obvious that they've lost all credibility.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark

Re: Instagram Is Becoming Facebook’s Next Facebook

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Post by Kiro »

svantana wrote: post #73
Kiro wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ask some hard questions about what social value they're actually creating What does this mean exactly? Facebook is providing tremendous value to me personally as a way of keeping in touch with family and friends but I guess you're asking from a higher perspective.

That is probably the best aspect of facebook, and what they should have stuck with IMO. The "let's be the place where people can see only news & opinions that they agree with" is more questionable.

Yes, I agree. I would love a Facebook focusing just on friends and family. No link sharing, no non-sense. One part I do like that is outside of that though is the different artists (music) I follow. What's interesting however is that even though artists are the only pages I like, posts from them get magically filtered out to leave room for links, funny videos and opinions. Or at least that's how it feels.

Re: Instagram Is Becoming Facebook’s Next Facebook

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Post by criddell »

asquabventured wrote: post #27
RandomInteger4 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The social value they're creating is that people like me are able to have a common medium through which I can maintain at least some semblance of socialization with a multitude of people who don't all share common interest other than being people I've communicated with at some point.

I guess Email or text messages are no longer cool?

Email and text messages? Are you too good for faxes and telegrams?

Email and text messages both suffer from the problem that they are controlled by the sender.

Facebook flips this. The wall reflects what I want to see.

Re: Instagram Is Becoming Facebook’s Next Facebook

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Post by metehe »

Im worryed of facebook and google how much they dominate the social media. Worryed about they behavier and actions to violate privacy, modify opinions and force they way in technology. Why people follow these violators ? Why advertisers put money on this ?

Sorry, facebook and google are for me big no no. I can't understand why people use these platforms. Why not to use alternatives ?

I hope people would think before using these services more.

Re: Instagram Is Becoming Facebook’s Next Facebook

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Post by psyc »

ronhav3 wrote: post #46

I've been on Instagram for a year, and I still don't get it. I've gotten to a 1000 followers by regularly adding photos from my travels. I get a few hundred likes per photo and a couple of dozen of generic comments.And the occasional DM. Is this it ? Even by the standards of social media, it feels very superificial to me. Facebook 10 years ago was much more exciting.

I don't get it either. I can only assume it's either a generational thing, or me not understanding things most people like. I've gone back, looked at, and tried to understand it several times, and I just can't see why I'd want to look at it or use it.

"I want everybody to see this photo I took"

"Cheers, I have seen your photo"

I guess that's extremely compelling to folks.

Re: Instagram Is Becoming Facebook’s Next Facebook

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Post by ohstopitu »

ismail wrote: post #92
l33tbro wrote: post #15

It's disappointing that tech journalists don't go a bit harder at the founders when writing pieces like these. Sure, it's interesting to find out about Instagram's internal processes and their projections, but Facebook is becoming increasingly regarded as being the main contributor to a new kind of social malaise. Therefore, if Instagram is aspiring to that level of adoption, how can questions like this not be put to…

I attended a conference where a speaker was someone from FB. One of the slides that stood out for me was a pic of 3 teens sitting in the most picturesque environment on a picnic blanket. All of them with their noses stuck in phones. This is what FB and instagram is about, getting you on the mouse wheel of usage so they can sell your attention.

and is that so bad? As in, this is like how our parents used to say "you are glued to the TV" and that's exactly what TV channels wanted...to sell your attention.

Re: Instagram Is Becoming Facebook’s Next Facebook

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Post by ams6110 »

victorvation wrote: post #44

> More precisely, it feels the way Facebook did from 2009 to 2012, when it silently crossed over from one of those tech things that some people sometimes did to one of those tech things that everyone you know does every day. Ubiquity is an interesting thought - there are very few apps that an average person uses on a daily basis that _aren't_ owned by Facebook. Four of the most used apps (Facebook, Messenger, Instagr…

Judging by my kids and their friends, teens and younger are not using Facebook apps, they are using Snapchat.

Re: Instagram Is Becoming Facebook’s Next Facebook

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Post by ryanwaggoner »

psyc wrote: post #97
ronhav3 wrote: post #46

I've been on Instagram for a year, and I still don't get it. I've gotten to a 1000 followers by regularly adding photos from my travels. I get a few hundred likes per photo and a couple of dozen of generic comments.And the occasional DM. Is this it ? Even by the standards of social media, it feels very superificial to me. Facebook 10 years ago was much more exciting.

I don't get it either. I can only assume it's either a generational thing, or me not understanding things most people like. I've gone back, looked at, and tried to understand it several times, and I just can't see why I'd want to look at it or use it. "I want everybody to see this photo I took" "Cheers, I have seen your photo" I guess that's extremely compelling to folks.

"I want everyone to read this comment I wrote."

"Cheers, I have read your comment."

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