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Greenspun: Let's stop investing in our kids

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Re: Greenspun: Let's stop investing in our kids

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Read the article. Visited link to Wikipedia article? Daymit, how you can SURVIVE on 35K a year in USA??? Maybe somewhere in Mississippi, but not in North USA. Still, you'll have to eat random crap from 7-11 and macdonalds...

I and many of my friends survive on less than 10K in the USA. Even Derek Sivers (from Mixergy interview) claims to live on 20K or less.

Re: Greenspun: Let's stop investing in our kids

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I can't take an article seriously that claims we'd be better off without doctors and hospitals. Whatever fallacy that's called, I'm definitely guilty.

That's not quite what it says.

It says that we're paying too much for the service we get in return.

Re: Greenspun: Let's stop investing in our kids

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I can't take an article seriously that claims we'd be better off without doctors and hospitals. Whatever fallacy that's called, I'm definitely guilty.

That's not quite what it says. It says that we're paying too much for the service we get in return.

> Just as we’ve produced a health care system so expensive that we’d be better off without doctors and hospitals

This is what it says.

Re: Greenspun: Let's stop investing in our kids

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Or, we just learn to be more frugal when it comes to higher education. It doesn't matter at all where I get my diploma from, I just need one to get anywhere. If I can manage to go to a public college and pay I have a good friend whose family is paying nothing for him to attend UCLA. Personally, I'm not so lucky/dilligent about applying for scholarships.

Re: Greenspun: Let's stop investing in our kids

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I can't take an article seriously that claims we'd be better off without doctors and hospitals. Whatever fallacy that's called, I'm definitely guilty.

He's showing that things are screwed up. We're spending too much on education for what we are getting in return. He's claiming that the system is wholly inefficient. He's just extending that to the health care system in that one-liner.

More generally: "For the amount of money that we are putting into , we should be getting more value out of it."

Re: Greenspun: Let's stop investing in our kids

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post #8

I can't take an article seriously that claims we'd be better off without doctors and hospitals. Whatever fallacy that's called, I'm definitely guilty.

He's showing that things are screwed up. We're spending too much on education for what we are getting in return. He's claiming that the system is wholly inefficient. He's just extending that to the health care system in that one-liner. More generally: "For the amount of money that we are putting into , we should be getting more value out of it."

That is not what the article _says_, though.

Re: Greenspun: Let's stop investing in our kids

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Read the article. Visited link to Wikipedia article? Daymit, how you can SURVIVE on 35K a year in USA??? Maybe somewhere in Mississippi, but not in North USA. Still, you'll have to eat random crap from 7-11 and macdonalds...

I and many of my friends survive on less than 10K in the USA. Even Derek Sivers (from Mixergy interview) claims to live on 20K or less.

And that is able to cover: shelter, food, health care, transportation, electricity, internet? I'd really be interested in seeing a break-down of costs and how that is possible.

[Note: I realize that electricity and Internet are not necessary to survive, but the person claiming to survive on $20K/year obviously has both.]

[Aside: I hope that the answer doesn't come down to something stupid like, "I invested $1-million in making my house/property as self-sufficient as possible." That kinda excludes a good portion of the population from trying.]

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