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Fake IDs in the age of the internet

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The mass use of fake IDs of this sort is a bizarrely American problem. In the UK, you're considered an adult at age 18. Most (aside from the unfortunate 17-year-olds) university students can legally purchase alcohol, smoke, or gamble if they so choose. But we don't have MADD, I guess.

In the UK one person in a group of friends usually has a fake ID by about 14/15 to buy alcohol in my experience.

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Is that seriously how the driving license looks like in the US? It looks like a student card, I understand why it's easy to duplicate now.

Depends on the state. Virginia's would be hard to fake since is has a transparent oval in the card with your face floating in it

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Greece, we don't check IDs for alcohol use (in practice. I think we're supposed to be doing it, nowadays). There are also no on-premises laws for alcohol. I think that's mostly because the culture is different, as people don't generally drink to get drunk like in other countries. You won't see the round-after-round drinking that you see in the UK or US, people will generally buy one or two drinks, and will rarely…

> (or if they're reckless kids) Which (right or wrong) is the rationalization behind restricting alcohol to those under a certain age.

Definitely, but you could say the same about many behaviours that aren't currently being age-restricted. Even drunk kids will just have a bad next morning, rather than go out and cause larger-scale problems like vandalism (although plenty do that sober).

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The mass use of fake IDs of this sort is a bizarrely American problem. In the UK, you're considered an adult at age 18. Most (aside from the unfortunate 17-year-olds) university students can legally purchase alcohol, smoke, or gamble if they so choose. But we don't have MADD, I guess.

20 years ago at least a number of my 14-16 year old friends in England had fake IDs for buying beer and cigarettes.

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The mass use of fake IDs of this sort is a bizarrely American problem. In the UK, you're considered an adult at age 18. Most (aside from the unfortunate 17-year-olds) university students can legally purchase alcohol, smoke, or gamble if they so choose. But we don't have MADD, I guess.

Drive through liquor stores and looking to be older tended to mitigate the need for ID in my youth.

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The mass use of fake IDs of this sort is a bizarrely American problem. In the UK, you're considered an adult at age 18. Most (aside from the unfortunate 17-year-olds) university students can legally purchase alcohol, smoke, or gamble if they so choose. But we don't have MADD, I guess.

Your bizarreness may be misplaced. American 18-year-olds can smoke and gamble.

I don't see how 18 prevents fake ids from 16 and 17 year olds though.

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I've been interested in this topic for a while. The article was fairly good but I did have a few minor quibbles. For one, ordering from IDGod (the vendor in the story) is known to be very reliable. If packages get stopped at customs, a customer can contact support to get a replacement shipped at no charge. Additionally, the advanced scanner BarZapp is pretty much a non-issue. Almost any ID purchased from vendors on t…

How will a fake id pass BarZapp? According to the article (I know nothing about this, so could be wrong) it looks up the id in a database and returns the name and dob of the owner. How could the made-up name be in the database?

Or are they cloning existing IDs, and the buyer doesn't get a choice in the name?

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The mass use of fake IDs of this sort is a bizarrely American problem. In the UK, you're considered an adult at age 18. Most (aside from the unfortunate 17-year-olds) university students can legally purchase alcohol, smoke, or gamble if they so choose. But we don't have MADD, I guess.

In Greece, we don't check IDs for alcohol use (in practice. I think we're supposed to be doing it, nowadays). There are also no on-premises laws for alcohol. I think that's mostly because the culture is different, as people don't generally drink to get drunk like in other countries. You won't see the round-after-round drinking that you see in the UK or US, people will generally buy one or two drinks, and will rarely…

>In Greece, we don't check IDs for alcohol use (in practice. I think we're supposed to be doing it, nowadays). There are also no on-premises laws for alcohol.

That's not correct. The law states clearly that alcohol purchase and consumption in public are illegal for underage people [1]. It's also illegal to enter premises where alcohol is served, without being escorted by an adult. Unfortunately the problem with Greece is not the lack of laws, it's enforcing them

[1] https://www.taxheaven.gr/laws/law/index/law/213 (in greek)

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A friend of mine from the University of Texas was arrested by Federal Agents while eating dinner in the cafeteria at Jester dormitory. He had purchased a card printing machine, a hologram printer, a blue portrait backdrop, etc. and set up shop in his dorm room. He made quite a bit of money before the law caught up to him and, despite being older and wiser, still has that felony charge hanging over him. A disgruntled…

I feel like a good seller is probably also someone who is choosy about his clients, and doesn't sell to baby-faced 15 year olds.
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