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Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by caseysoftware »

sgift wrote: post #122
watter wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You would have an NYC-LosAngeles government nearly every time. Clintons for life. The system was designed to avoid the concentration of power you desire.

Why exactly would this be the case? As far as I can see most people don't live in this two cities? And saying the US system "was designed to avoid the concentration of power" sounds like a sad joke from an European perspective (First-past-post-system, extreme presidential powers etc.)

Those "extreme presidential powers" were not in the system design.

They were submitted as (sometimes secret) change requests by every president post WW2 and accelerated by presidents in the last ~20 years. Unfortunately, the code review team didn't remove the changes and tacked on their own during the process.

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by vultour »

kidmenot wrote: post #42
isaac_is_goat wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has nothing to do with Trump, it was going on during the Obama era - and probably Bush and before (but I'm not sure) - but it was never a problem until now. Stop spreading FUD.

This has nothing to do with FUD, sorry. It's only one of the factors that discourages me from visiting, and if now it has become a problem, it means that this presidency somehow made it worse.

But it literally did not become a problem now. The airport checks are the same as they always were.

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by Markoff »

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #57
cm2187 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me it's less the risk of being search than the massive queues in US airports that turn me off. Feels like queuing for food in Moscow in the Soviet area, just to take a plane.

The Soviet era . But yes, I just traveled from Shanghai back to my home in the US. The queues in China were much, much shorter than those in the American airports. PVG posted a "25 minutes or less" target for all travellers to get through security and immigration. And they hit it, even at peak travel times with huge volumes of people. At American airports if you arrive less than an hour before boarding they might not…

yeah, amazing China with longest flight delays in world, but yeah security check is pretty fast, for sure faster than in Chinese train station

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by bonzini »

belorn wrote: post #60
tremon wrote: post #5

Besides the obvious "don't cross the border with work data", I found this recommendation much more interesting: [ask] for someone to remove you from the Basecamp team for 1Password so you no longer have access to Basecamp logins and passwords. Maybe we should temporarily suspend our employee's accounts too when they travel to the US.

Alternative is to use other tokens than passwords for authentication. There is hardware tokens (which should not be taken abroad), or the system can be designed to only permit authentication from on-site. If you need to build in flexibility to work remote, add a one-time password system that has to be manually provide by a on-site staff. That way the decision to be compelled to provide authentication will rest on peo…

Indeed. Only allow provisioning new soft tokens on site, and disable the old soft token before travelling.

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by staticelf »

js8 wrote: post #8
staticelf wrote: post #2

I recently visited the US and I thought the process was going to be hell after reading a lot of these threads on HN. Turns out it was pretty chill, got some questions before boarding and was selected for extra security check. Then upon landing I got like 3 questions from the officer, how long I would stay, where my friends were and what the purpose of my trip was. Sure they didn't seem very friendly but it wasn't a b…

> You only need to give up passwords and such if you are unlucky. Very comforting, isn't it? Especially when this is said about a legal process.

Not really, no. Especially when you're used to just walking through an automated machine which I get to do for most of the time when I travel.

First I thought I would bring my computer with pirated movies on it but when I read up online I decided not to bring a computer at all.

People in the thread seems to think I am defending the process which I am not. I just state that people seem to hype the evilness of the border control.

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by kyrre »

ItendToDisagree wrote: post #144
Markoff wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's not random check, it's called profiling i don't see why people have problem with this, what would be point randomly search old (white) retired woman, what risk she present? pretty much same goes for Eastern Asians, etc. if you have biggest odds finding terrorist between dark skinned Muslims, then you will search them the most, nothing random or racist about that, it's like saying i won't take umbrella outside wh…

If you're going to profile and be proud... At least profile the correct demographic. http://time.com/3934980/right-wing-extremists-white-terroris...

The study linked in your article has been updated (Spoiler alert: Radical Islam has retaken the lead by 2x)

https://www.newamerica.org/in-depth/terrorism-in-america/wha...

How would it look if we factored in the relative population?

> B-but you are more likely to be killed by white trucker driver falling asleep than a jihadist truck hijacker.

Misleading much?

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by briandear »

microtonal wrote: post #45
8draco8 wrote: post #10

I live in Europe. From my perspective going to US looks like going to some kind totalitarian country. First I have to got visa which is not automatically approved because I'm Polish not British. Then I have to go trough a lot of, mostly pointless, security checks, checking social accounts, interrogations, scans and manual personal revisions. On any stage of that I can be handcuffed and sent back to Europe for almost…

We had serious plans to go on holiday to the US this year. I have been in the US at least a dozen of times, and absolutely love the desert states, Oregon, and Washington. Entering the US was already a large hassle, but with Trump's travel bans, rumors of phone, laptop, and social media checks, we have decided to postpone our travel plans until the political/security climate improves. Semi-related: we were in the mark…

Did the travel ban affect you? Are you from one of the six affected countries? I read a lot of commentary about how the travel ban has influenced travel decisions, but I'm not seeing much practical impact to the vast majority of travelers.

Everyone has a right to vote with their euros of course, but I am curious if a single traveler has avoided France because of their policies in French Guyana, the Magreb or Sub-Saharan Africa or avoided China, Turkey or most Middle East countries because of human rights records? How about avoiding Italy or Greece because of widespread corruption or the U.K. because of the Brexit vote.

Avoiding travel because of political disagreements would mean that people would only visit places that are exactly like they want. It's geopolitical inbreeding.

Just a point of fact: Trump isn't denying climate change, he's skeptical of the impact from human activity.

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by bloomca »

So, many comments here target US or Trump in particular. But in fact, as many noted, there is not real connection – it started long time ago. Also, I bet, there are quotas (e.g. number of people) to be detained, so they have to fulfil it.

Also, US is just an example here (because many conferences are held in the US), but also there are stories from the UK, for instance. From my point of view, the problem is that with social networks it is extremely easy to get access to your whole life – it is already pretty easy to identify person on the facebook, for instance (right now there is no way to prove that it is _exactly_ you, but I am pretty sure they will be soon). So, with restrictions on such monopoly media (and I've heard it is already harder to register on the Facebook), it is very easy to end up in a situation where we will get "human score" (similar to credit score, but in the digital world), which will be used in such situation.

And even the bigger problem is that it might be needed for a work, for a loan application, etc, so you wouldn't be able to do all this without it (or even "to apply for a visa your score should be higher than 3.0". My predictions are that governments will try to work more closely with popular platforms trying to emerge such (there were few stories than people were detained because of tweets) metrics, and to broad access not only from your phone, but from their device, just your user profile.

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