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International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by cm2187 »

SCdF wrote: post #20

Just don't travel there. I'm sure I'd be fine: I've been fine a dozen times before. That was before they decided that it was OK to demand passwords and so on. Maybe now it would be worse. Or maybe my skin colour lets me off the hook. Regardless, I'd rather just not waste jet fuel on flying to a place that treats anyone this way. Your phone/tablet/laptop is, for better or worse, a gateway to your entire life. It conta…

For me it's less the risk of being search than the massive queues in US airports that turn me off. Feels like queuing for food in Moscow in the Soviet area, just to take a plane.

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by kidmenot »

isaac_is_goat wrote: post #26
kidmenot wrote: post #19

This only reinforces my intention to postpone my first visit to the US until after this presidency and its associated madness have ended. EDIT: at least until after this presidency.

This has nothing to do with Trump, it was going on during the Obama era - and probably Bush and before (but I'm not sure) - but it was never a problem until now. Stop spreading FUD.

This has nothing to do with FUD, sorry. It's only one of the factors that discourages me from visiting, and if now it has become a problem, it means that this presidency somehow made it worse.

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by kalleboo »

shpx wrote: post #34

This is a political statement highlighting the current legal uncertainty of refusing to unlock your devices at the US border[0]. By default iphones and macs are encrypted when you completely power them down, so the right way (assuming you have a good password) is to shut down your computers at the airport and only turn them back on when you've passed the border. Nothing interesting here tech-wise, effectively just a…

If you're a US citizen they have to let you in, but if you're a visitor they'll probably just turn you back at the border. The article says a South Korean man won a lawsuit against an unreasonable search, but you're not going to be able to do that from your home country.

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by microtonal »

8draco8 wrote: post #10

I live in Europe. From my perspective going to US looks like going to some kind totalitarian country. First I have to got visa which is not automatically approved because I'm Polish not British. Then I have to go trough a lot of, mostly pointless, security checks, checking social accounts, interrogations, scans and manual personal revisions. On any stage of that I can be handcuffed and sent back to Europe for almost…

We had serious plans to go on holiday to the US this year. I have been in the US at least a dozen of times, and absolutely love the desert states, Oregon, and Washington.

Entering the US was already a large hassle, but with Trump's travel bans, rumors of phone, laptop, and social media checks, we have decided to postpone our travel plans until the political/security climate improves.

Semi-related: we were in the market for a new car. One of the factors we decided to go for a European car this time (we had a Ford Focus before) is that we'd like to support Trump America as little as possible.

Before you say that this is overreacting, hear me out: the US belongs to US citizens. If you want this president, fine. But some of his policies, such as denying climate change and undermining journalism is going te have a large influence on the rest of us.

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by mattmanser »

omarqureshi wrote: post #28

I'm a British Muslim who flew to the US on Sunday. Honestly I had assumed it would be hell. In actual fact it was only a little more painful than before. I'm used to being randomly selected for an additional search every time in the UK premiere flight. My colleague (another British Muslim) was also selected which we found quite amusing. On the other side it wasn't bad, just answered truthfully, only snag was my colle…

This is more to deal with the business risk rather than a personal risk.

The US targeting companies with large amounts of data, obtaining passwords to access all of Basecamp's data, either for industrial espionage or counter-terrorism.

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by kalleboo »

omarqureshi wrote: post #28

I'm a British Muslim who flew to the US on Sunday. Honestly I had assumed it would be hell. In actual fact it was only a little more painful than before. I'm used to being randomly selected for an additional search every time in the UK premiere flight. My colleague (another British Muslim) was also selected which we found quite amusing. On the other side it wasn't bad, just answered truthfully, only snag was my colle…

There are 10s of millions of visitors to the US every year, and we hear about what, a couple incidents per year?

That said, that's still too high a risk for business data.

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by Yizahi »

collyw wrote: post #31
8draco8 wrote: post #10

I live in Europe. From my perspective going to US looks like going to some kind totalitarian country. First I have to got visa which is not automatically approved because I'm Polish not British. Then I have to go trough a lot of, mostly pointless, security checks, checking social accounts, interrogations, scans and manual personal revisions. On any stage of that I can be handcuffed and sent back to Europe for almost…

The UK seems to be trying its hardest to catch up.

On the visa price front they already beat everyone else. 115$ for half year visa? Or 450$ for two years visa? Great.

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by apexalpha »

8draco8 wrote: post #10

I live in Europe. From my perspective going to US looks like going to some kind totalitarian country. First I have to got visa which is not automatically approved because I'm Polish not British. Then I have to go trough a lot of, mostly pointless, security checks, checking social accounts, interrogations, scans and manual personal revisions. On any stage of that I can be handcuffed and sent back to Europe for almost…

GF traveled to the US for work, a conference in Houston. Everyone that looked Arab of Muslim was 'randomly' picked out of line. Some of the employees had to undress and squat in front of the TSA and one had to undergo cavity searches.

These were regular European citizens. Let's just say conferences will be help in Europe or Canada in the future...

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by jdietrich »

8draco8 wrote: post #10

I live in Europe. From my perspective going to US looks like going to some kind totalitarian country. First I have to got visa which is not automatically approved because I'm Polish not British. Then I have to go trough a lot of, mostly pointless, security checks, checking social accounts, interrogations, scans and manual personal revisions. On any stage of that I can be handcuffed and sent back to Europe for almost…

If you have to travel to the US, fly via Shannon Airport in Ireland. A special arrangement with the Irish government allows you to pass through US immigration and customs controls while you're still on Irish soil. When you arrive in the US, you're treated as a domestic passenger. You don't avoid the intrusive interrogations, but they're a lot more polite about it because they can't detain you. If you're refused entry, you can fly home at your own leisure rather than being detained and deported.

http://www.shannonairport.ie/gns/passengers/prepare/us-precl...

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