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Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Would it be accepted to give a wipe code rather than a password to customs?

They would deny you entry if you did that.

You you could be charged with lying and/or destroying evidence and who knows what else. Definitely don't do that. Worse thing to do is lie or attempt to deceive an agent.

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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post #10

I live in Europe. From my perspective going to US looks like going to some kind totalitarian country. First I have to got visa which is not automatically approved because I'm Polish not British. Then I have to go trough a lot of, mostly pointless, security checks, checking social accounts, interrogations, scans and manual personal revisions. On any stage of that I can be handcuffed and sent back to Europe for almost…

If you have to travel to the US, fly via Shannon Airport in Ireland. A special arrangement with the Irish government allows you to pass through US immigration and customs controls while you're still on Irish soil. When you arrive in the US, you're treated as a domestic passenger. You don't avoid the intrusive interrogations, but they're a lot more polite about it because they can't detain you. If you're refused entry…

Arlanda airport in Stockholm is also working on a pre-clearance arrangement like this[1], although it won't start until 2019 at the earliest it seems.

[1]: https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-release/united-s...

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

#93
post #79

I'm from Eastern Europe and I (literally) just flew back from a 2 week work trip from the US (California): - Getting a visa was a painless process. I just applied and I got a business visa. - Entering the States required me to show my passport. Nothing else. Nobody asked me why I was going there, nobody asked me to show my phone or laptop (I had both). There was no separation, pat downs etc.

Maybe because Eastern Europeans are rarely shooting or bombing innocent people? Just a wild, wild guess...

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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They keep it in record and in the future if they ever found out you lied, you can be jailed for 10 years.

Then you can say that you have some accounts but you don't remember the password anymore: "I'm just logged in from my computer at home. If I delete the cookies I don't know if I would be able to get the password again"

It wouldn't matter.

1. Lying to them falls under "fraudulent access to the USA" and the penalty is permanent exclusion, no Visa will help you, you have no right to appeal.

2. You cannot discuss or appeal anything, there isn't a discussion that you are a part of in which you get to explain your side or proffer an excuse... your actions already did your talking.

Don't lie to border control, don't give BS excuses. Either you're willing to give them access or you shouldn't have boarded the plane. "I can't because I don't remember" is not a right to enter the USA... you do not have that right, the right is granted by them.

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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post #20

Just don't travel there. I'm sure I'd be fine: I've been fine a dozen times before. That was before they decided that it was OK to demand passwords and so on. Maybe now it would be worse. Or maybe my skin colour lets me off the hook. Regardless, I'd rather just not waste jet fuel on flying to a place that treats anyone this way. Your phone/tablet/laptop is, for better or worse, a gateway to your entire life. It conta…

People who have recently travelled to the US, what's the probability that you will be asked to unlock your stuff and have random employees search through it? Is it something that happens a lot?

It has happened to me. They looked through my emails and text messages. It was extremely terrifying to experience.

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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> "Don't Travel With Work Data" Why would I value my personal data any less than my work data ? So what this rally means is: "Don't Travel With Any Data". And knowing that they only need to plug an infected USB device into your PC/phone/tablet to infect the latter irrevocably, the situation can now be summed up as: "Don't Travel With Any Data Or Any Hardware ". Now what does that say about the sate of a country?

Recall that these are instructions to employees – the company's first obligation is to protect the company, not the employees. Wiping work data is simply a means of limiting liability. Should sensitive data leak out due to a laptop getting seized at the border that's a lot more serious to the company than if your nudes were stolen.

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then you can say that you have some accounts but you don't remember the password anymore: "I'm just logged in from my computer at home. If I delete the cookies I don't know if I would be able to get the password again"

That's fine, but why do you think they'd allow you to enter the country in that case?

Even when having no social media accounts is suspicion in itself. You can't win.

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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post #10

I live in Europe. From my perspective going to US looks like going to some kind totalitarian country. First I have to got visa which is not automatically approved because I'm Polish not British. Then I have to go trough a lot of, mostly pointless, security checks, checking social accounts, interrogations, scans and manual personal revisions. On any stage of that I can be handcuffed and sent back to Europe for almost…

GF traveled to the US for work, a conference in Houston. Everyone that looked Arab of Muslim was 'randomly' picked out of line. Some of the employees had to undress and squat in front of the TSA and one had to undergo cavity searches. These were regular European citizens. Let's just say conferences will be help in Europe or Canada in the future...

I'm calling bullshit on this story. I can't find any reports of TSA conducting these types of cavity searches. Ever.

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Besides the obvious "don't cross the border with work data", I found this recommendation much more interesting: [ask] for someone to remove you from the Basecamp team for 1Password so you no longer have access to Basecamp logins and passwords. Maybe we should temporarily suspend our employee's accounts too when they travel to the US.

maybe just stop traveling to US would be easier and cheaper solution, why one need to be physically present anywhere in 2017? i find it odd, i can understand it for my father that when some of his agricultural company partners has training, people from neighboring countries must travel there for hours to stay there for few hours and go back, but IT company in 2017? reminds me of Huawei which is still organizing telec…

Well:

A) - Full HD video conferencing for ~ 100 people is not cheap. At all. Bandwidth costs alone would be huge. B) - For teams that work together remotely, it is very important for them to meet in person from time to time. Communication issues drop when you can put a face and personality to a name on IRC / email. (and no, this is not achieved via video calls)

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We had serious plans to go on holiday to the US this year. I have been in the US at least a dozen of times, and absolutely love the desert states, Oregon, and Washington. Entering the US was already a large hassle, but with Trump's travel bans, rumors of phone, laptop, and social media checks, we have decided to postpone our travel plans until the political/security climate improves. Semi-related: we were in the mark…

The majority of US citizens did not vote for Trump. Just thought I'd point out that most people DO NOT want this president.

That's irrelevant in this case, isn't it?
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