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Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by r3m3mb3rm3 »

HappyTypist wrote: post #65
celticninja wrote: post #54

So what happens when they ask for my Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat logins and I do not have accounts with these companies? If a simple "I don't have social media accounts" is acceptable then I'm not sure why they even ask for passwords. Proving a negative is very hard.

They keep it in record and in the future if they ever found out you lied, you can be jailed for 10 years.

Then you can say that you have some accounts but you don't remember the password anymore: "I'm just logged in from my computer at home. If I delete the cookies I don't know if I would be able to get the password again"

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by beagle3 »

jdietrich wrote: post #50
8draco8 wrote: post #10

I live in Europe. From my perspective going to US looks like going to some kind totalitarian country. First I have to got visa which is not automatically approved because I'm Polish not British. Then I have to go trough a lot of, mostly pointless, security checks, checking social accounts, interrogations, scans and manual personal revisions. On any stage of that I can be handcuffed and sent back to Europe for almost…

If you have to travel to the US, fly via Shannon Airport in Ireland. A special arrangement with the Irish government allows you to pass through US immigration and customs controls while you're still on Irish soil. When you arrive in the US, you're treated as a domestic passenger. You don't avoid the intrusive interrogations, but they're a lot more polite about it because they can't detain you. If you're refused entry…

Don't know if it is still the case, but Canada had a similar arrangement last time I flew through Toronto (about 10 years ago)

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by tomp »

Fzzr wrote: post #4
sidchilling wrote: post #3

Woah... this definitely seems over the board! If all of this is required, it's a recent thing, I guess. I have been to the US multiple times with a B1-Business Visa and didn't do any of this stuff. I just showed up and the customs officer asked a bunch of questions about my purpose of visit and that's about it. I didn't need any invitation letter or hotel bookings, etc. Hotel bookings and a LOT of other documentation…

Yes. Recent (this administration) policies allow for demanding passwords etc. at the border. There was an incident where a NASA engineer lost control of sensitive data as a result https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/02/a-nas... It's not paranoia. Welcome to 2017. Edit: It's not like they're scanning every cell phone that enters the country... but they reserve the right to.

Please stop spreading lies. This happened long before this administration. E.g. articles from 2016:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/28/us-custom...

https://www.theverge.com/2016/12/22/14066082/us-customs-bord...

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by sgift »

deathhand wrote: post #35
pjmlp wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even most IT companies in 2017 still don't allow for home office, and the few that allow it, do a very timid "only in exceptional cases". Meanwhile working for enterprise consulting companies, all of which have offshore teams, means remote work is a daily activity. Funny enough some customers are exactly those companies that forbid home office to their own employees.

I think the 'owners' don't believe at-home work can scale properly. Given a population a subset of humans will always try to beat the system. The 'butt in seats' mentality is believed to curtail that system cheating behavior.

The idea that a seat in the butt somehow would be a good deterrent against people 'cheating' the system always sounded amusing to me. One would think that companies have some way to measure someones work that's better than "Was he here for at least x hours? Yeah? Great, job done."

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by toomanybeersies »

Fzzr wrote: post #4
sidchilling wrote: post #3

Woah... this definitely seems over the board! If all of this is required, it's a recent thing, I guess. I have been to the US multiple times with a B1-Business Visa and didn't do any of this stuff. I just showed up and the customs officer asked a bunch of questions about my purpose of visit and that's about it. I didn't need any invitation letter or hotel bookings, etc. Hotel bookings and a LOT of other documentation…

Yes. Recent (this administration) policies allow for demanding passwords etc. at the border. There was an incident where a NASA engineer lost control of sensitive data as a result https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/02/a-nas... It's not paranoia. Welcome to 2017. Edit: It's not like they're scanning every cell phone that enters the country... but they reserve the right to.

I don't know why he didn't pull the security clearance card in regards to the phone.

If it's what it sounds like, the CBP agent unlocking and inspecting the phone may have been breaking the law themselves.

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by woof »

klausjensen wrote: post #71
bkor wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Around half did want him? That's a significant of people to me, no matter if they have the majority or not.

Technically, only ~57% of eligible voters actually voted. Of those, about half voted for Trump. So only about 27% of all eligible voters actually voted for Trump. That is pretty standard for a US presidential election. Those are the rules for democracy, so he is the legitimately elected president. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/10/13587462/...

A large number of Democrats voted for Trump by not voting at all.

They made a choice to let Trump win, just to tell Hillary (and the Democratic Party) that they didn't like her!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/omribenshahar/2016/11/17/the-no...

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by watter »

microtonal wrote: post #72
ItendToDisagree wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The majority of US citizens did not vote for Trump. Just thought I'd point out that most people DO NOT want this president.

Thanks for bringing up, since it is a relevant point. However, it still does not change the fact that he is now leading the most powerful nation, with all its consequences. I have always wondered how hard it would be to switch to direct voting rather as opposed to the system with an electoral college. Is it impossible because the current system is codified in the constitution, or does it 'only' require an amendment.…

You would have an NYC-LosAngeles government nearly every time. Clintons for life.

The system was designed to avoid the concentration of power you desire.

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by lukealization »

r3m3mb3rm3 wrote: post #81
HappyTypist wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They keep it in record and in the future if they ever found out you lied, you can be jailed for 10 years.

Then you can say that you have some accounts but you don't remember the password anymore: "I'm just logged in from my computer at home. If I delete the cookies I don't know if I would be able to get the password again"

This is genuinely applicable to me. I don't remember any of my passwords since I'm logged in at most places via cookies, and my passwords are completely randomized strings two dozen or more characters long, stored in a password manager.

Do border security understand how password managers work, or would I have to tell them how to access my own data?

Showerthought: If I delete my password manager from my phone, maybe the password manager should perform geolocation and detect if the application is trying to be installed at an airport (possibly indicating installation against my will). That's a very nuanced situation.

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by irishsultan »

r3m3mb3rm3 wrote: post #81
HappyTypist wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They keep it in record and in the future if they ever found out you lied, you can be jailed for 10 years.

Then you can say that you have some accounts but you don't remember the password anymore: "I'm just logged in from my computer at home. If I delete the cookies I don't know if I would be able to get the password again"

That's fine, but why do you think they'd allow you to enter the country in that case?

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by Terretta »

beagle3 wrote: post #82
jdietrich wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have to travel to the US, fly via Shannon Airport in Ireland. A special arrangement with the Irish government allows you to pass through US immigration and customs controls while you're still on Irish soil. When you arrive in the US, you're treated as a domestic passenger. You don't avoid the intrusive interrogations, but they're a lot more polite about it because they can't detain you. If you're refused entry…

Don't know if it is still the case, but Canada had a similar arrangement last time I flew through Toronto (about 10 years ago)

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