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Post by tcube »

russellbeattie wrote: post #217

Do any of you have children at a school using Google Chromebooks and Google Drive? Calling Windows S a Chromebook competitor completely misses the point. Chromebooks are instant on, and your profile/data is 100% cloud based. You can grab any Chromebook from the rack in the back of the classroom, open it up, log in and immediately get to work on your report or whatever. I got an original Chromebook from Google I/O yea…

Terry Myerson demonstrates a PC management app which streamlines setup at around 24 min into the video at http://event.microsoft.com/MayEvent/. The demonstrations look promising.

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Post by flamedoge »

squeaky-clean wrote: post #346
krzyk wrote: post #287

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At schools in Poland. You can't have internet access so you won't look up answers on the internet. You have just computer in from of you. It's pretty standard way of doing any kind of grading. Example would be for programming class or for office suite. You don't need internet to work in IDE or in Office.

As long as you log in before internet is disabled (don't show up late to class?), you'll be in your user account. The laptop screens don't become black once they lose internet connection. Google Docs/Sheets/etc supports offline editing, and a quick Google shows there are IDE's that run on a chromebook with offline mode support.

yea... they're all pretty crap. Need linux to really bring it alive.

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Post by soperj »

slm_HN wrote: post #191
tmd83 wrote: post #154

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This look fairly expensive for the config isn't it?

They could probably drop the price, but they want OEMs to build their own versions of the machine. If you drop your price too low OEMs will be squeezed out of the market. That's the big problem Microsoft has with their hardware that Apple doesn't.

except that Apple doesn't go after the low end of the market anyway, so that doesn't really matter.

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Post by Filligree »

BHSPitMonkey wrote: post #245
LeoPanthera wrote: post #239

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I've never used a Chromebook so this is an honest question - do they not have any kind of local sync, so you can work on your stuff and then upload it back to the cloud next time you get online?

Only to the extent that the sites/apps themselves choose to do that.

You do have the option of installing Android apps, so there should usually be something.

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Post by mavhc »

hueving wrote: post #493
komali2 wrote: post #396

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Why do you worry about this? Do you believe targeted ads are more harmful to your child than non-targeted?

Are you okay with a big company having a profile about your child's most intimate questions as they age? Children don't grasp the potential consequences of companies maintaining registries of people searching for really personal things.

However once they leave that school they'll be using a different account.

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Post by joshmn »

natch wrote: post #424
PuffinBlue wrote: post #372

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And what was this one-time childish mistake that lead to losing the account?

She saw a chain email (i.e. forward this to 10 people!) and decided it would be fun to make up her own. Apparently it was successful enough to get somebody's attention. Edit: To be clear, I would never blame them for wanting to stop a cascading explosion of emails. But I also wouldn't say it's impossible for a child to get an account banned.

Makes for a good story at least. Can't blame a kid for being curious on how stuff works.

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Post by soperj »

vaishaksuresh wrote: post #320
andrepd wrote: post #203

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Xiaomi Mi Air 13, i5 8/256 $690. Aluminum unibody, smaller and lighter than MBP 13. Stop buying overpriced crap and start supporting companies that charge fair prices and maybe MS and Apple will release products that aren't 2-3x as pricey as the competition.

This is purely personal, but I don't buy laptop solely for its form-factor. What sells the MBP to me is the operating system and frankly that is what keeps me from buying a windows laptop too. In the end I'm ok with paying a premium for a laptop that just works 90% of the time. MBP usually last very long (I still use a early 2011 machine), so the cost is amortized.

I have a toshiba laptop from 2001 that still boots up and runs fine, abet slowly. I have 2 from 2008 w/ no problems at all. My 2012 230x thinkpad has better specs then what's being currently released (2 256gb ssds, and 16gb of ram - really easy to install aftermarket ram & ssds) and is my main laptop, and will be for the foreseeable future. I don't see how a 2011 machine is all that remarkable.

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Post by pjmlp »

flukus wrote: post #463
kbenson wrote: post #240

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Sibling comments note that it says you can upgrade to to Windows 10 Pro for $50, or for free until 2018. The free upgrade seems to be possibly linked to this deal (it's referenced in the store page), but the details take you to the Windows S page which notes that upgrading from Windows 10 S to Windows 10 Pro is a normal feature of Windows 10 S (although it notes "affordably", so there is usually a cost).

For anyone considering running linux this type of nickle-and-diming is more likely to push them over the edge than to stay with windows. If you stay with windows you get more of this kind of thing, if you jump ship then you never have to worry again.

The wonders of using software without paying for it.

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Post by fibo »

russellbeattie wrote: post #217

Do any of you have children at a school using Google Chromebooks and Google Drive? Calling Windows S a Chromebook competitor completely misses the point. Chromebooks are instant on, and your profile/data is 100% cloud based. You can grab any Chromebook from the rack in the back of the classroom, open it up, log in and immediately get to work on your report or whatever. I got an original Chromebook from Google I/O yea…

I use a Chromebook and it is great, also for the price. I think MS will not succed with a 999$ semi laptop.
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