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Introducing Surface Laptop

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Wouldn't that fabric get dirty over time? I usually use wet towels to clean the keyboard area on my laptop, how would you clean that fabric though?

For most cleanup a damp towel would work fine, if it got really dirty there are purpose designed Alcantara/Microsuede cleaners.

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You could buy one from a store like gearbest or else buy from a reseller in your country and pay a small premium for warranty etc.

I have this impression in my mind that Gearbest is untrustworthy - this may have come from anecdotes where people were buying smaller ticket items where dishonesty, etc is more common, not sure. Anyways, I'm leery sending $800 to that site.

Search for physical resellers near you, you will pay a small premium but maybe it's worth it for peace of mind.

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Given the target market (schools) I think not being able to install downloaded software is only a good thing. Also, did you see the performance demo? 10s was significantly faster than 10 Pro. Not sure about the $999 for the cheapest model however. Does it include an Office 365 subscription?

> Given the target market (schools) I think not being able to install downloaded software is only a good thing. Except that giving kids unfettered access to their computers allows them to flourish. See: BBC Micro, Raspberry Pi, Apple ][, the list goes on.

What makes unfettered access a necessary condition? Seems like kids flourish in all sorts of environments.

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Do any of you have children at a school using Google Chromebooks and Google Drive? Calling Windows S a Chromebook competitor completely misses the point. Chromebooks are instant on, and your profile/data is 100% cloud based. You can grab any Chromebook from the rack in the back of the classroom, open it up, log in and immediately get to work on your report or whatever. I got an original Chromebook from Google I/O yea…

> Chromebooks are instant on, and your profile/data is 100% cloud based. You can grab any Chromebook from the rack in the back of the classroom, open it up, log in and immediately get to work on your report or whatever. First of of all that's not entirely true. Nothing is instant. It wakes up fast, but not instantly. Login is fast, but not instant. First time login is fastish but not fast or instant. Windows has had…

> Windows has had Roaming User Profiles since NT

And Windows XP had a Tablet Edition long before Apple even dreamt about bringing something like the iPad to market.

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Xiaomi Mi Air 13, i5 8/256 $690. Aluminum unibody, smaller and lighter than MBP 13. Stop buying overpriced crap and start supporting companies that charge fair prices and maybe MS and Apple will release products that aren't 2-3x as pricey as the competition.

This is purely personal, but I don't buy laptop solely for its form-factor. What sells the MBP to me is the operating system and frankly that is what keeps me from buying a windows laptop too. In the end I'm ok with paying a premium for a laptop that just works 90% of the time. MBP usually last very long (I still use a early 2011 machine), so the cost is amortized.

As for me the only thing I admire in the MBP is the form factor and build quality. I dislike OSX and the purely technical specs are nothing to write home about (especially at that price), so the Xiaomi 13 is great for me.

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But we should worry about google building advertising profiles on children, as they have been doing.

That's a very real concern. As a parent I think about things like that all the time. My son has a personal Chromebook and both my son and daughter use Google school accounts. The alternative, in this case using a Microsoft Surface Laptop instead, should raise many of the same concerns. With the tight coupling of online services and single account sign-on options that Microsoft offers, similarly extensive advertising…

Why do you worry about this? Do you believe targeted ads are more harmful to your child than non-targeted?

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> log in and immediately get to work on your report or whatever office365\onedrive allows this. if your docs are simple, you can do it from your phone or tablet too. you are correct that you get a "whole" experience with a chromebook which is nice.

After your AD Profile is downloaded to the laptop which can take several minutes, and often the profile will remain on the machine after you return it to the cart. Plus software/settings might vary from machine to machine even from the same laptop cart. The thing about Chromebooks is that the state is always consistent and your settings follow you. That's much harder to attain with Windows laptops (not impossible min…

it can all be done through the browser. or on a phone\tablet.

onedrive is a dropbox clone with office integration that makes it really easy to save your documents.

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At schools in Poland. You can't have internet access so you won't look up answers on the internet. You have just computer in from of you. It's pretty standard way of doing any kind of grading. Example would be for programming class or for office suite. You don't need internet to work in IDE or in Office.

How does that make for a reliable exam? In the real world you use the internet all the time. The exam should be about your skills, and using information sources like the internet should be one of them. It's not like you can 'download' a perfect answer to a programming exam online, and if you can, then you deserve a medal because you'll be able to build applications faster than everyone else.

For mere facts, I could kind of agree, though it is important to learn certain things, like certain historical dates, which you could perfectly google quickly, but not having them in mind means you can't follow a live discussion on the topic. But in disciplines like math or physics, it's about understanding what you are doing. Googlying-copy-pasting without understanding the solution of an exercise defeats its purpose. And it's not because you can google-translate a piece of text that you can speak that language.

I am all for modernising education but I am kind of appalled by the culture of google-copy-paste that I have seen 20-something doing when they are confronted to a problem, instead of trying to understand it and having a "what would make sense?" approach.

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Why don't they just ship it with W10 Pro already installed? Are there hardware issues, or do they hope a percentage of the population will pay for the upgrade in 2018?

I would expect this to be a way to pressure software providers to publish to the store. With opt-in model, even if it's free, you can assume that there will be a sizeable chunk of the market that will not opt-in to upgrade to Pro.

This in my opinion is the exact reason.

Either they get $50 from users and let them go buy/install off-market, or make the money in the long run from paid app developers who are pressured now to put their applications on the store.

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My child lost her firstname.lastname gmail/Google account for life for a one-time childish mistake. So, I guess you are mistaken.

And what was this one-time childish mistake that lead to losing the account?

I'm curious as well. There's little a child, let alone an adult, could that would result in a permaban.
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