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Introducing Surface Laptop

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Re: Introducing Surface Laptop

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post #82

I haven't seen any info whether the display is detachable or not and if it's compatible with the pen. If not that's a huge missed opportunity, especially if they're targeting the education sector. As other comments already pointed out, other companies are already doing small Windows laptops better and cheaper.

Not detachable, but it is compatible with the pen.

Re: Introducing Surface Laptop

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post #82

I haven't seen any info whether the display is detachable or not and if it's compatible with the pen. If not that's a huge missed opportunity, especially if they're targeting the education sector. As other comments already pointed out, other companies are already doing small Windows laptops better and cheaper.

360-degree flip pen support (e.g., like Samsung's newest Chromebook) would be good enough, and more typical of laptop-vs-tablet.

Re: Introducing Surface Laptop

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I was like 'Wow' until I saw the price. You can't target college students with Windows S which only runs apps from the Windows store. Edit : missed the part which says, you can upgrade to 10.

You can upgrade to Win 10, he says it at the end.

Re: Introducing Surface Laptop

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Surface Laptop is thinner than both.

That's remarkable. How did they get the USB-A port in there? The MacBook Pro body is thinner than the type A receptacle. Edit: Looking at this picture https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/surfa... and there's even substantial space around the type A receptacle. I honestly don't understand how it can be thinner than the MBP. I look forwards to seeing one in person.

A USB Type-A plug is only 0.177" thick; the opening to accommodate it can be as small as about 0.2".

The smaller MBP is 0.59" thick. The Surface Laptop is 0.57" at the thickest point (0.39" at the thinnest). Either one can easily accommodate any USB port.

If you look at a Macbook Pro sitting on a table, you'll see there's a considerable gap between the table and the side of the computer. That's because the MBP is thicker in the middle than at the sides, which makes it appear thinner than it is.

Re: Introducing Surface Laptop

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A fabric covered keyboard... wondering how that's going to look in a year of use.

1 USB 3.0 port and a proprietary Surface Connect port... So more surface-only dongles if you want to connect to a VGA/DVI/HDMI display. Is the Surface Connect port completely proprietary or is a rebranded Thunderbolt?

Starts at $999 for a 13.5" i5/4GB/128GB SSD, and then you have to upgrade to Windows 10 Pro for $49 if you want to use Steam or non-ms appstore apps... and after 1 year pay $70/yr or $7/mo for O365

Re: Introducing Surface Laptop

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Surface Laptop is thinner than both.

That's remarkable. How did they get the USB-A port in there? The MacBook Pro body is thinner than the type A receptacle. Edit: Looking at this picture https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/surfa... and there's even substantial space around the type A receptacle. I honestly don't understand how it can be thinner than the MBP. I look forwards to seeing one in person.

Apple has a bottom bulge on their notebooks whereas Microsoft doesn't: http://www.pcmag.com/media/images/427048-apple-macbook-air-1...

Re: Introducing Surface Laptop

#98

They're now demoing the Surface Laptop. Thinner than a MacBook Air. Faster than a MacBook Pro. Longer battery life than either. The downside? "Windows 10 S", which only runs apps from the Windows Store. The upside over Windows RT from the Windows 8 era? You can port Win32 apps to the Store today, don't think you could back then. Edit: You can upgrade Windows 10 S to ordinary Windows 10 Pro for $50. Laptops that run W…

I'm kind of gobsmacked at that something like Windows 10 S exists. It's like Microsoft doesn't understand that the absolutely enormous quantity of Win32 apps in use is the moat that protects their Windows business from serious competition. Millions and millions of regular people just assume that it's not really safe for their next computer to be a Mac or a Chromebook or what have you, because they're afraid of the risk of losing access to some niche application they depend on. So they keep on buying Windows machines, not so much from anything about Windows as from the vague feeling that computers that don't run Windows are cut off from the mainstream in some important way they don't fully understand.

And Microsoft is willing -- eager! -- to drain their moat and move to a world where they're just one in a sea of fully interchangeable app stores. It's baffling.

Re: Introducing Surface Laptop

#99

We should all be taking offense by this. This is the drug dealer play book, Hook the kids early, so that when they are adults they go with what they know, instead of being critical thinkers and evaluating the available products to pick the best technical solution for the needs at hand. this is why small to mid-sized companies are struggling with MS server products, and are locked into this merry-go-round licensing fe…

Is everyone a programmer or engineer in your reality?

Re: Introducing Surface Laptop

#100
Since this is a Surface, is the screen touchable? It's a pretty machine, but the brand seems slightly fragmented. What does "surface" stand for at this stage?

I wonder if we'll see iPad Laptops someday, too?

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