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Re: Introducing Surface Laptop

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Post by steego »

deelowe wrote: post #5

I wonder if tying this to the windows store is a good move. The reception thus far hasn't been extremely encouraging.

You raise a good question.

I own a Chromebook precisely because it's limited in the software it can run. Other people own it because it's simple to own and use. Restricting to the Windows Store is a good move for security, but I'm not sure the different groups of customers will take away the same message.

Some people will see it as a move to water it down or take away features while others will see it as a positive step toward improved security.

I'm not envious of the tightrope Microsoft has to walk to set the right expectations from their customers. If they're smart, they're going to make simplicity and enhanced security the key features. If they're not so smart, they'll be emphasizing the "one windows" message they were pushing a few years back.

Then again, I've been wrong before.

Re: Introducing Surface Laptop

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Post by tyleo »

sergiotapia wrote: post #20

Let's stop doing clickbait on HN please.

I have seen a few messages about this being clickbait. I am confused by this. I clicked on a link and it is an unveiling of a new Surface which seems to be a Chromebook competitor since it is aimed at the education market. That seems to be in line with what the title says. What qualifies this as clickbait?

Re: Introducing Surface Laptop

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Post by ManFromUranus »

steego wrote: post #21
deelowe wrote: post #5

I wonder if tying this to the windows store is a good move. The reception thus far hasn't been extremely encouraging.

You raise a good question. I own a Chromebook precisely because it's limited in the software it can run. Other people own it because it's simple to own and use. Restricting to the Windows Store is a good move for security, but I'm not sure the different groups of customers will take away the same message. Some people will see it as a move to water it down or take away features while others will see it as a positive s…

I agree with your take, many will not see improved security as a benefit but will instead resent the limited functionality. This is nothing more than a rebranded Windows RT which already failed in the market with the Surface RT. IMO this laptop will also fail, regardless of whatever hardware they pair it with

Re: Introducing Surface Laptop

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Post by dangrossman »

They're now demoing the Surface Laptop. Thinner than a MacBook Air. Faster than a MacBook Pro. Longer battery life than either.

The downside? "Windows 10 S", which only runs apps from the Windows Store. The upside over Windows RT from the Windows 8 era? You can port Win32 apps to the Store today, don't think you could back then.

Edit: You can upgrade Windows 10 S to ordinary Windows 10 Pro for $50. Laptops that run Windows S from other manufacturers will start at $189.

Re: Introducing Surface Laptop

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Post by kyriakos »

Its not as bad as it first sounds. You can run full office, you have an ok browser and casual games. Its obviously not made for most of the people on HN but it fits the requirements for a lot of people business and home users. Assuming they release some very cheap laptops / convertibles running it it could work.

Re: Introducing Surface Laptop

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Post by kyriakos »

dangrossman wrote: post #27

They're now demoing the Surface Laptop. Thinner than a MacBook Air. Faster than a MacBook Pro. Longer battery life than either. The downside? "Windows 10 S", which only runs apps from the Windows Store. The upside over Windows RT from the Windows 8 era? You can port Win32 apps to the Store today, don't think you could back then. Edit: You can upgrade Windows 10 S to ordinary Windows 10 Pro for $50. Laptops that run W…

I am not sure if they still have that feature but when first info about Windows S was leaked it said that you can "upgrade" to full Windows with an extra fee.

Re: Introducing Surface Laptop

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Post by pawadu »

dangrossman wrote: post #27

They're now demoing the Surface Laptop. Thinner than a MacBook Air. Faster than a MacBook Pro. Longer battery life than either. The downside? "Windows 10 S", which only runs apps from the Windows Store. The upside over Windows RT from the Windows 8 era? You can port Win32 apps to the Store today, don't think you could back then. Edit: You can upgrade Windows 10 S to ordinary Windows 10 Pro for $50. Laptops that run W…

Given the target market (schools) I think not being able to install downloaded software is only a good thing.

Also, did you see the performance demo? 10s was significantly faster than 10 Pro.

Not sure about the $999 for the cheapest model however. Does it include an Office 365 subscription?

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