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Re: Pavel Durov Has Unfriended Everyone

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This is a puff piece designed to puff up Telegram. If you look at, say, Instagram it is growing rapidly. Specifically to Facebook, the issue is 3 pronged: - Disassociated Graph. The truth is the friends you had in high school and your family are all great but it is highly likely you don't share a lot of things in common with them. For example, your love for kayaking and the outdoors might resonate with no one on your…

I think you're not using Facebook appropriately. There are many groups and pages that keep you engaged and entertained as well as informed to some extent. You join the ones that cater your interest. I actually spend a lot of time on facebook daily because I managed to get a good selection of interesting sources. I have heard the same old tired tale that facebook is dying etc and it feels so vibrant right now. I guess…

> I think you're not using Facebook appropriately.

I respectfully disagree. The dissociated graphs and/or the wrong usage of social network platforms are minor issues. They are issues, but not the cause of the matter.

The wrongfully usage of graph theory is the main issue that (most social networks) should address.

The first usage of the sociogram (at least the first I am aware of) is in the psychosociological studies of Iacob Levy. From there the graph theory has seen a huge improvement as a very powerful analytical tool.

Using this tool to automatise sociality is [clumsily] easy, but [refinedly] hard: we are basically using a sophisticated querying tool to filter, predict, rate future interest and to ease future communications.

And this is not wrong, unless you add strong requirements to the problem: free flow of information but avoiding hype-driven sharing, freedom of connection but avoiding the filter bubble and self-radicalisation, etc.

Apparently many are starting to think that what's probably causing disconnected graphs, inappropriate usage, fake news, revenge porn et all is "feeding users with feedbacked data extracted from big data analysis over graphs and metadata".

I wonder if anyone has ever bothered reading "Psychodrama & Group Psychotherapy", that highlights how doing this is inserting psychopathic traits in a community.

Solving this matter means seeking a solution to precautionary principles, and is probably something that requires strong AIs.

Since we don't have strong AIs, in the meanwhile, unfriending everyone is a simple and elegant solution. chapeaux

Re: Pavel Durov Has Unfriended Everyone

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You could unfollow everyone. i did this a few months back and haven't missed it at all. way less distraction.

You are basically saying your friends were a distraction. Which is a little rude (UK perspective).

heh, you know - you're not wrong :) It may appear rude, but it's not meant to be - it's just a way of flipping the interaction from a push to a pull. i can always visit a friend's page to see what they've been up to.

Re: Pavel Durov Has Unfriended Everyone

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Telegram has solved the communications problem for me mostly. Before telegram, I had, all of the legacy messenger services (AIM, ICQ, Yahoo, Skype, etc), plus Slack, IRC and whatever I used at work - now I have Telegram, and no longer sign into those legacy services anymore. What makes telegram a winner for me is that the desktop is a first class citizen, I'm in front of a computer like 18 hours a day - I don't want…

Are you using Telegram instead of Slack at work?

Work is still skype for business, plus iMessage between co-workers.

Re: Pavel Durov Has Unfriended Everyone

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I think you're not using Facebook appropriately. There are many groups and pages that keep you engaged and entertained as well as informed to some extent. You join the ones that cater your interest. I actually spend a lot of time on facebook daily because I managed to get a good selection of interesting sources. I have heard the same old tired tale that facebook is dying etc and it feels so vibrant right now. I guess…

>I think you're not using Facebook appropriately Can't use this shit the right way. Can I sort the posts in my feed in chronological order by default yet? not to mention threaded comments.

"Users can select a “Most Recent” tab to show posts as they appear, but the setting stubbornly switches back to Facebook's algorithmically-driven feed after a certain amount of time."

Also there is 1 level of threads in comments. A reply in a post can become a thread.

Re: Pavel Durov Has Unfriended Everyone

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>I think you're not using Facebook appropriately Can't use this shit the right way. Can I sort the posts in my feed in chronological order by default yet? not to mention threaded comments.

"Users can select a “Most Recent” tab to show posts as they appear, but the setting stubbornly switches back to Facebook's algorithmically-driven feed after a certain amount of time." Also there is 1 level of threads in comments. A reply in a post can become a thread.

>Also there is 1 level of threads in comments. A reply in a post can become a thread.

I'm not sure if you are trying to prove my point or point out something different.

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