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Pavel Durov Has Unfriended Everyone

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Re: Pavel Durov Has Unfriended Everyone

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Post by whyoh »

m52go wrote: post #3

Despite its imperfections, which in my cursory understanding are largely academic, Telegram is an amazing messenger. It's very quick, feature-rich, and developer-friendly. Perhaps best of all, it's a nonprofit. So I can expect, with a high degree of confidence, that the organization won't abruptly switch course one day to appease investors.

>Despite its imperfections, which in my cursory understanding are largely academic

1) no video calls

2) voice calls just now being rolled out

3) encryption is opt-in and limited to one-on-one conversations

4) requires a phone number for authentication

The "academic" criticism is about its crypto being poor. The rest is regular stuff which is a deal breaker even for many non-academics.

Re: Pavel Durov Has Unfriended Everyone

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Post by lmm »

Aloha wrote: post #24
m52go wrote: post #3

Despite its imperfections, which in my cursory understanding are largely academic, Telegram is an amazing messenger. It's very quick, feature-rich, and developer-friendly. Perhaps best of all, it's a nonprofit. So I can expect, with a high degree of confidence, that the organization won't abruptly switch course one day to appease investors.

Telegram has solved the communications problem for me mostly. Before telegram, I had, all of the legacy messenger services (AIM, ICQ, Yahoo, Skype, etc), plus Slack, IRC and whatever I used at work - now I have Telegram, and no longer sign into those legacy services anymore. What makes telegram a winner for me is that the desktop is a first class citizen, I'm in front of a computer like 18 hours a day - I don't want…

Discord has done that for me, but only because all my friend groups are willing to use it. If you just want a messenger that works well, there are a number of good options - that unfortunately don't talk to each other.

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Post by Insanity »

whazor wrote: post #35
electic wrote: post #6

This is a puff piece designed to puff up Telegram. If you look at, say, Instagram it is growing rapidly. Specifically to Facebook, the issue is 3 pronged: - Disassociated Graph. The truth is the friends you had in high school and your family are all great but it is highly likely you don't share a lot of things in common with them. For example, your love for kayaking and the outdoors might resonate with no one on your…

Here in Netherlands, before Facebook, we had a social network called Hyves. One of the reasons it failed is because of the disassociated graph, like you mentioned. You start out with all of your friends from high school, but once you start to grow.. the distance between you and them growths. That is why people started moving to Facebook, because all their cool friends where there. I guess the only reason why Facebook…

In Belgium we used netlog a lot. But I belief it was aimed more at teenagers though

Re: Pavel Durov Has Unfriended Everyone

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Post by mafribe »

nitemice wrote: post #7
bitexploder wrote: post #2

I wiped out (actual permanent deletion) my Facebook account late 2016. Email and long form communication for people that matter. Gathered anyone I regularly chatted with or wanted to IM with onto Signal. Don't miss anything about Facebook other than a group or two I was a member of. Decentralized forums still exist and work fine. We deserve better than Facebook.

I have been wanting to do this for literally years now, but I don't think I could convince the vast majority of my friends to move onto anything together, let alone Signal. Most of them are non-technical, and it just holds no appeal. Plus, because they would basically just be installing it just to talk to me, they would probably nearly never be online or check their messages, so I'd almost never get to talk to them a…

Have you considered using the "Facebook News Feed Eradicator"? It does what the name suggests it does, and let's you focus on events and private messages.

Re: Pavel Durov Has Unfriended Everyone

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Post by konart »

madprops wrote: post #19
electic wrote: post #6

This is a puff piece designed to puff up Telegram. If you look at, say, Instagram it is growing rapidly. Specifically to Facebook, the issue is 3 pronged: - Disassociated Graph. The truth is the friends you had in high school and your family are all great but it is highly likely you don't share a lot of things in common with them. For example, your love for kayaking and the outdoors might resonate with no one on your…

I think you're not using Facebook appropriately. There are many groups and pages that keep you engaged and entertained as well as informed to some extent. You join the ones that cater your interest. I actually spend a lot of time on facebook daily because I managed to get a good selection of interesting sources. I have heard the same old tired tale that facebook is dying etc and it feels so vibrant right now. I guess…

>I think you're not using Facebook appropriately

Can't use this shit the right way. Can I sort the posts in my feed in chronological order by default yet? not to mention threaded comments.

Re: Pavel Durov Has Unfriended Everyone

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Post by la_oveja »

mullsork wrote: post #32
Aloha wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Telegram has solved the communications problem for me mostly. Before telegram, I had, all of the legacy messenger services (AIM, ICQ, Yahoo, Skype, etc), plus Slack, IRC and whatever I used at work - now I have Telegram, and no longer sign into those legacy services anymore. What makes telegram a winner for me is that the desktop is a first class citizen, I'm in front of a computer like 18 hours a day - I don't want…

Are you using Telegram instead of Slack at work?

I know few people who do.

Re: Pavel Durov Has Unfriended Everyone

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Post by konart »

>Vkontakte, which quickly beat the original in Russia because it became the medium for sharing pirated movies and music

While true - one of the big reasons VK is more popular is simple and light UI, something that Fb lacks for some reason. Many people here won't switch or even register simply because everything is hidden somewhere, and instead of chronological feed of articles from your friends and groups you have tons of "the most popular posts". Nobody want's that. Nobody cares about how much likes the post have. Just give me the content I'm here for, not the content you think is more important or trendy.

Re: Pavel Durov Has Unfriended Everyone

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Post by keypress »

tempestn wrote: post #39
icantdrive55 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the US, many FB'ers friend anyone. I had this girl I worshiped years ago. She finally seemed interested, on a chance encounter. She said, "I'll friend you?" Blah, blah, etc. I got home, and looked her up. She had 550 friends. I can't figure out if I don't like her now because she rebuffed me years ago, or she has 550 FB friends. And yes--I took into account she might be insecure now, and filled with self-doubt; wh…

I think you're reading too much into it. I barely use facebook and have a couple hundred friends. I'll accept an invite from anyone I know and like, regardless of how well I know them. Do that for a decade, or however long FB's been around, and you build up quite a few.

It's very tempting to friend anyone. But because of Facebook's tendency to then cross pollinate posts via comments etc. I'm more reluctant to do so (privacy of others). I post to Facebook almost as if I'd post in public. But it's different for everyone. I know there are settings and ways to make circles, but it seems a faff.

Re: Pavel Durov Has Unfriended Everyone

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Post by aldanor »

nitemice wrote: post #7
bitexploder wrote: post #2

I wiped out (actual permanent deletion) my Facebook account late 2016. Email and long form communication for people that matter. Gathered anyone I regularly chatted with or wanted to IM with onto Signal. Don't miss anything about Facebook other than a group or two I was a member of. Decentralized forums still exist and work fine. We deserve better than Facebook.

I have been wanting to do this for literally years now, but I don't think I could convince the vast majority of my friends to move onto anything together, let alone Signal. Most of them are non-technical, and it just holds no appeal. Plus, because they would basically just be installing it just to talk to me, they would probably nearly never be online or check their messages, so I'd almost never get to talk to them a…

IIRC you can deactivate FB but still use their IM
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