Pavel Durov Has Unfriended Everyone
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Pavel Durov Has Unfriended Everyone
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#2I wiped out (actual permanent deletion) my Facebook account late 2016. Email and long form communication for people that matter. Gathered anyone I regularly chatted with or wanted to IM with onto Signal. Don't miss anything about Facebook other than a group or two I was a member of. Decentralized forums still exist and work fine. We deserve better than Facebook.
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#3Despite its imperfections, which in my cursory understanding are largely academic, Telegram is an amazing messenger.
It's very quick, feature-rich, and developer-friendly.
Perhaps best of all, it's a nonprofit. So I can expect, with a high degree of confidence, that the organization won't abruptly switch course one day to appease investors.
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#4Actually using Durov's messenger app. Have created a couple of personal bots myself, which took less than an hour each.
The only downside will probably be the time when Durov is out of money, and they will start monetizing the platform.
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#5Despite its imperfections, which in my cursory understanding are largely academic, Telegram is an amazing messenger. It's very quick, feature-rich, and developer-friendly. Perhaps best of all, it's a nonprofit. So I can expect, with a high degree of confidence, that the organization won't abruptly switch course one day to appease investors.
The criticism is only about the crypto, which is weird and historically unsafe (and not on by default).
Other than that it is a great app. Some of us just think the bar is e2e by default.
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#6This is a puff piece designed to puff up Telegram. If you look at, say, Instagram it is growing rapidly. Specifically to Facebook, the issue is 3 pronged:
- Disassociated Graph. The truth is the friends you had in high school and your family are all great but it is highly likely you don't share a lot of things in common with them. For example, your love for kayaking and the outdoors might resonate with no one on your graph. Instagram, and other networks like it, you build graphs based on interest. If your Instagram account is about the outdoors, it is highly likely everyone else will be outdoors people as well. That's more rewarding.
- Bad Content. Graph aside, the content is terrible. The feed is full with click-bait articles, and fake news. You actually feed bad after spending any time on Facebook because you know it is was a waste.
- Ads. A good chunk of your feed now is full of ads. Terrible ads. Instagram, for example, is a relatively clean interface.
I would say Facebook is clearly on the decline based on the above but to say all networks are on the decline is false. Instagram has proven otherwise and there will be other networks, in the same Instagram vein, that will grow quickly as well.
Lastly, all of these networks and messengers have one glaring flaw. They isolate you. President Obama touched upon this a week ago. They do little to connect you with your surroundings and I would hardly call any of them "social networks." They don't connect you to your neighborhood, your city, and the places you frequent the most. It is pretty shocking, but most Americans now only, on average, have about 2.5 friends they see regularly in real-life and most people don't even know who their neighbors are. It's sad.
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#7I wiped out (actual permanent deletion) my Facebook account late 2016. Email and long form communication for people that matter. Gathered anyone I regularly chatted with or wanted to IM with onto Signal. Don't miss anything about Facebook other than a group or two I was a member of. Decentralized forums still exist and work fine. We deserve better than Facebook.
I have been wanting to do this for literally years now, but I don't think I could convince the vast majority of my friends to move onto anything together, let alone Signal. Most of them are non-technical, and it just holds no appeal. Plus, because they would basically just be installing it just to talk to me, they would probably nearly never be online or check their messages, so I'd almost never get to talk to them again.
I basically don't use Facebook (the website), but I am still stuck using their Messenger for communication with most of my friends. That said, Facebook's events system is still the best that I've seen. If it was stand-alone, I would probably delete the rest of FB, and just keep that part. Nothing else on Facebook adds any value to my experience. Nothing you need to be logged in for, at least.
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#8I have no friends.
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#9Despite its imperfections, which in my cursory understanding are largely academic, Telegram is an amazing messenger. It's very quick, feature-rich, and developer-friendly. Perhaps best of all, it's a nonprofit. So I can expect, with a high degree of confidence, that the organization won't abruptly switch course one day to appease investors.
A non-profit simply means that it cannot hold money from one year to the next. To achieve that, a "non-profit" could give millions as executive compensation or contract inefficiently to for-profit "partners" who collect the gains. Not saying Telegram is doing that, but the structure shouldn't be adding to a vote of confidence in any way.
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#10This is a puff piece designed to puff up Telegram. If you look at, say, Instagram it is growing rapidly. Specifically to Facebook, the issue is 3 pronged: - Disassociated Graph. The truth is the friends you had in high school and your family are all great but it is highly likely you don't share a lot of things in common with them. For example, your love for kayaking and the outdoors might resonate with no one on your…
As far as I understand it, the first two of these problems, you could theoretically fix (to some extent) yourself.
If you share nothing in common with your high school friends, your family etc., just don't be 'friends' with them. Only friend/like pages related to your interest.
In theory, that would fix problem 2 as well, to some extent, because the majority of the junk that fills your feed comes from your twice-removed aunt who 'likes' every video she sees and reposting every click-bait article she can find.
Unfortunately, if that all worked as planned, that would probably cause your feed to be flood with way more ads, to make up for the lack of content. But at least they might be more targeted?