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My impression from working at Google was that lack of respect for property is unfortunately part of Google's culture. I've met this mindset on many occasions, so this whole lawsuit, as well as the fact that Levandowski was allowed to rise high at the company, doesn't surprise me a bit. It's just that in this case it was one of their own engineers using it against them, for a change.
Well, the FOSS movement believes all software belongs to the world, doesn't it?
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Re: Uber’s Anthony Levandowski out as Advanced Technologies lead amid legal fight
#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
The guy built a self-driving motorcycle . I laughed at the first DARPA Grand Challenge when it travelled 30cm before falling over. I ate my words the next year when it made it most of the way. By comparison, after a year of learning to ride a motorbike I barely make it to work each day without shitting myself.
Video of the guy and his bike https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CYGT97i8qU
...and keep in mind that this was done around 1990.
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It's all the more interesting because Google makes it ridiculously easy to ask for that permission and get a legally unambiguous go or no go for any side projects. It's not like this would have been murky waters.
there was a joke posting on an internal alias that showed the internal /etc/aliases file for Google which had the mailing list going to '|/usr/bin/no'[1] :) I would be interested to know if anyone still there had ever tried that and gotten a yes answer. The three times I used the process it was always denied. [1] To understand the meta-joke there is actually a /usr/bin/yes program but in the standard distribution the…
Re: Uber’s Anthony Levandowski out as Advanced Technologies lead amid legal fight
#184Worth remembering that Google paid this guy over $120 Million in compensation. He is a tech "1%"er, which really is saying a lot. That is hedge fund money. I'm not certain, but I think the average engineer would feel more loyalty to a company that has given them multi-generational wealth. I'm all for engineers getting paid, but in this case the guy didn't even have to do what most wealthy engineers do: deliver an act…
> I'm all for engineers getting paid, but in this case the guy didn't even have to do what most wealthy engineers do: deliver an actual successful product to market. Anthony's efforts led to Streetview and Maps improvements. Waymo is still using his LIDAR research. I think Anthony is totally screwed with this lawsuit, but I wouldn't belittle his engineering accomplishments.
It's not belittling engineering efforts if one states that rewarding a non-production research project with 120 million would be adequate in a lot of cases.
Re: Uber’s Anthony Levandowski out as Advanced Technologies lead amid legal fight
#185Is there any reason not to be suspicious that Levandowski will just work on them unofficially?
"But Mr. Levandowski is still at Uber, reporting to his replacement, Eric Meyhofer. One person who knows both men said Mr. Meyhofer was considered to be Mr. Levandowski’s “shill.” So color us unimpressed by the move, which could just be smoke and mirrors."
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Why does he get all of the credit for this? He was part of a team.
Sure, but he was the team leader. I was part of a team that built autonomous vehicles too, but the fact that there were others involved doesn't stop me writing "built an autonomous vehicle" on my CV.
Re: Uber’s Anthony Levandowski out as Advanced Technologies lead amid legal fight
#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
The guy built a self-driving motorcycle . I laughed at the first DARPA Grand Challenge when it travelled 30cm before falling over. I ate my words the next year when it made it most of the way. By comparison, after a year of learning to ride a motorbike I barely make it to work each day without shitting myself.
I for sure would have remembered some rinky dink motorcycle lining up for the start in Primm in 2005. His team didn't make it past the NQE in LA, IIRC.
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#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here's Keynes with another perspective: > When the accumulation of wealth is no longer of high social importance, there will be great changes in the code of morals. We shall be able to rid ourselves of many of the pseudo-moral principles which have hag-ridden us for two hundred years, by which we have exalted some of the most distasteful of human qualities into the position of the highest virtues. We shall be able to…
I like that quote, but I disagree with it. I don't think "love of money as a possession" is a good thing, but I think it's pretty rare compared to the "love of money as a means to the enjoyments and realities of life." One of the most life-changing experiences I've ever had was swimming in a bioluminescent bay in Puerto Rico. I've never seen so many stars overhead in contrast to absolute darkness (you have to be in r…
1. I live in one of the richest counties in the United States. My neighbors are very wealthy. That said, they don't seem to do much with their free time.
They take, usually a couple of two week vacations, usually to touristy places. They come home, and seem like they can't wait to get back to work. You look in their garages, and you don't see much besides a few nice cars. Maybe a bicycle--that's never ridden.
They don't seem to have any hobbies. If the have a boat, it just sits in Sausalito.
My point is they don't seem to relish the free time they could have. It's almost like they think they will live forever?
Money can buy freedom, but if your determined, and don't have a lot of responsibilities (basically kids); I think the average person, with an average income can live a pretty adventurous life. I really think it's more about just doing it? You don't want to end up homless though.
We all read about the fabiolous lives some new tech legend lives, but in my county, the wealthy just don't seem to do much. It doesn't make sence. Actually, it does. If you young, and make millions in tech in a few years; it's different than spending 20 years building up a business.
I'm not knocking the huge amounts of money some guys make seemingly overnight. I just think the average multimillionaire is a workaholic, and even though they could retire early, and climb Everest; they are so used to their daily grind--they live seemingly boring lives? Not boring, but not how I would live, if I had that money. They do have problems, but they, and their kids, don't have the stress poor/middle people have. Even with the added stress of being poor/middle class in a rich county; the people I see at the beach, mountians, actually sailing are not the wealthy ones. Antidotal---yes!
Maybe I'm missing something?
Re: Uber’s Anthony Levandowski out as Advanced Technologies lead amid legal fight
#189There is also a supposed conversation between him and Larry Page before he left. From what I've read, Larry supposedly knew a lot about the circumstances of his leaving, and what transpired in that meeting supposedly will undermine Waymo's position. He's being deposed, but apparently Uber is only allowed to ask him one question, which is odd. Edit: downvoted as expected. I bet that 9 out of 10 people upvoting these s…
I read they can only ask one question because there was no proof the conversation occurred except for him saying it happened. the judge was being lenient allowing one question.
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I must be number 10 then. No connection to Google, just don't think hearsay is helpful/interesting.
Uber has requested that Larry Page be deposed and they have questions they want to ask him under oath. That's fact, not hearsay. They clearly have questions the truth of which will weaken Waymo's position. Lawyers don't ask questions they don't already know the answer to. The only unknown is if Larry will lie under oath or be able to skillfully answer in a way that doesn't hurt Waymo's position.
The bias is dripping off your lips.