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Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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Post by richardwhiuk » Wed, Apr 26, 2017, 12:30 PM UTC

sgift wrote: post #158

richardwhiuk wrote: post #25

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US police receive large amounts of hand down military equipment and are routinely armed. Some US citizens are routinely armed, so the potential for lethal harm is much greater in any scenario. US domestic policy has encouraged the police to be at war (vs crime, drugs etc). US domestic policy has encouraged a criminalization of large amounts of petty stuff (truancy / three strikes policies) which encourages this. This…

> Almost any civilian action (e.g. filming police / protests) encourages the 'us vs them' attitude and encourages police to close ranks. IMO, if you are not able to shrug off people exercising their rights even if it bothers you you are unfit of being a police officer. Or any civil servant for that matter.

Being (knowingly) filmed constantly is extremely off putting to lots of people.

Protests are extremely volatile environments, and often a small number of people in them are there to cause trouble.

Protestors often equivocate attacking the government as attacking the police (sometimes reasonsably, as the police are effectively a state instrument). It's quite difficult not to create an us versus them attitude when some people in a protest are throwing projectiles.

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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Post by nickpsecurity » Wed, Apr 26, 2017, 5:46 PM UTC

eruditely wrote: post #279

nickpsecurity wrote: post #106

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"Seems like the guy calls himself a "copchaser" and is used to actuallly chase police officers, annoyingly record their action and make sure to insult them while teaching them a lesson about how to do their job. And he calls all that "standing his ground"." That's what I was seeing in the video I watched. Dude is a disgrace to activists. Last thing we need is more people acting like that toward police in a way that m…

ie a demand for us to be excessively passive and make their be an asymmetry in favor of the aggressor, ie why girls like criminals now , while they just to like knights before, the good guys , anyways, what you advocate men to do would be cede the asymmetry in favor of aggressors/criminals, police & criminals (same group of people, if you've ever had those sorts of friends they often just decide to try to be a cop la…

What the hell are you talking about? Im not encouraging weak behavior. The goal of the videos is to convince public to change law and policy. It's proven fact that more of public will buy into the cops being the aggressor if the activist isnt actively trying to piss them off by doing them dirty or threatening them. Im advocating doing what helps the cause instead of what makes you feel like an alpha-male/female in heat of the moment.

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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Post by eruditely » Sat, May 06, 2017, 7:15 AM UTC

nickpsecurity wrote: post #282

eruditely wrote: post #279

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ie a demand for us to be excessively passive and make their be an asymmetry in favor of the aggressor, ie why girls like criminals now , while they just to like knights before, the good guys , anyways, what you advocate men to do would be cede the asymmetry in favor of aggressors/criminals, police & criminals (same group of people, if you've ever had those sorts of friends they often just decide to try to be a cop la…

What the hell are you talking about? Im not encouraging weak behavior. The goal of the videos is to convince public to change law and policy. It's proven fact that more of public will buy into the cops being the aggressor if the activist isnt actively trying to piss them off by doing them dirty or threatening them. Im advocating doing what helps the cause instead of what makes you feel like an alpha-male/female in he…

that asymmetry decides which side women like more, (noob), women will always like the side that wins in the intimidation hierarchy, or the side of the most aggression without repaid cost.

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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Post by nickpsecurity » Sat, May 06, 2017, 9:51 PM UTC

eruditely wrote: post #283

nickpsecurity wrote: post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What the hell are you talking about? Im not encouraging weak behavior. The goal of the videos is to convince public to change law and policy. It's proven fact that more of public will buy into the cops being the aggressor if the activist isnt actively trying to piss them off by doing them dirty or threatening them. Im advocating doing what helps the cause instead of what makes you feel like an alpha-male/female in he…

that asymmetry decides which side women like more, (noob), women will always like the side that wins in the intimidation hierarchy, or the side of the most aggression without repaid cost.

Maybe. The others still got the most done for underrepresented's freedom (see Civil Rights movement). Including women.