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Exercise 'keeps the mind sharp' in over-50s, study finds

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Re: Exercise 'keeps the mind sharp' in over-50s, study finds

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Recent study ("Running as a Key Lifestyle Medicine for Longevity"):

Abstract: Running is a popular and convenient leisure-time physical activity (PA) with a significant impact on longevity. In general, runners have a 25%–40% reduced risk of premature mortality and live approximately 3 years longer than non-runners. Recently, specific questions have emerged regarding the extent of the health benefits of running versus other types of PA, and perhaps more critically, whether there are diminishing returns on health and mortality outcomes with higher amounts of running. This review details the findings surrounding the impact of running on various health outcomes and premature mortality, highlights plausible underlying mechanisms linking running with chronic disease prevention and longevity, identifies the estimated additional life expectancy among runners and other active individuals, and discusses whether there is adequate evidence to suggest that longevity benefits are attenuated with higher doses of running.

Conclusion: There is compelling evidence that running provides significant health benefits for the prevention of chronic diseases and premature mortality regardless of sex, age, body weight, and health conditions. There are strong plausible physiological mechanisms underlying how running can improve health and increase longevity. Running may be the most cost-effective lifestyle medicine from public health perspective, more important than other lifestyle and health risk factors such as smoking, obesity, HTN, and DM. It is not clear, however, how much running is safe and efficacious and whether it is possible to perform an excessive amount of exercise. Also, running may have the most public health benefits, but is not the best exercise for everyone since orthopedic or other medical conditions can restrict its use by many individuals.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0033062017...

NYT reporting on the study ("An Hour of Running May Add 7 Hours to Your Life"):

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/12/well/move/an-hour-of-runn...

Re: Exercise 'keeps the mind sharp' in over-50s, study finds

#172
Nothing helps me tackle a tough programming problem like a nice, long bike ride. Is it grueling at times? Of course. Are my legs burning by the end? Usually. But, hard physical activity is the perfect way to clear my mind.

Plus, the fact that your body will go to shit if you don't exercise. Before I started lifting weights approx 10 years ago, I had back aches from sitting in an office chair all day. After regular, challenging, weight training, those problems vanished. Why? Because my muscles are strong now.

If you don't use your muscles, they soon because worthless, and painful. It's amazing how much stronger you get in a short amount of time as a beginner in weight training.

You don't like exercising? Boo hoo, no one does. I'd much rather eat pizza and drink beer than put 30 miles on my bike. But, I know it's important, so I suck it up and go. Even when I absolutely don't want to.

Re: Exercise 'keeps the mind sharp' in over-50s, study finds

#173
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If you read the study and point out a flaw, thank you for your contribution. If you make a zero effort "observation" which makes it clear you didn't even skim the abstract, you're adding nothing of value.

You're right. It's not arrogance though, just laziness?

It's laziness to not click and read the link, it's arrogance to think that your criticism is valid in light of the results of your laziness.

I also didn't read the link, but I'm also not critiquing the study.

Re: Exercise 'keeps the mind sharp' in over-50s, study finds

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> The real question is how do you get people of their ass and start exercising? You don't. You wait for them until they decide and act on their decision.

Pretty much this. All you can do for most people is to be an example to them in this regard, and politely suggest getting some physical activity to them every now and then, if it comes up naturally in conversation. They're all adults, in this age of information they all the facts available for such decision.

You could say the same about getting people to save for retirement, but then we tried making 401k plans opt-out and participation increased. We can dramatically change behavior simply by changing the default.

Sometimes there are obvious ways to do this--check here if you don't want to be an organ donor, click this link if you don't want half this raise/starting salary to automatically go into your 401k--and sometimes it's a lot trickier, but it still seems worth investigating in those cases.

It's not obvious how to make exercising opt-out, but I'm skeptical of any claims that we can't non-coercively change behavior until we investigate it a lot and fail consistently.

Some companies provide on-site gyms. Some have secure bike parking + showers. Some provide free or subsidized membership to nearby gyms (if simply subsidized, it could be made opt-out). Even something as simple as providing standing desks could make a difference.

Sure, they're all adults, but their behavior is still shaped more by culture and environment than thoughtful, conscious decisions. Why do I give the government an interest-free loan instead of minimizing my withholding and put it into an interest-bearing account? I know I have the fiscal discipline to benefit from this, but it's weird and not default, so I don't.

Trivial inconveniences are incredibly effective in changing behaviors. In many cases, we can adjust those inconveniences.

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Do not say you're too busy to exercise. Your productivity is much higher when you exercise. Do not say you're too old to exercise. The older you are, the more crucial it is. Get in the habit. Start with even just 2 intense minutes a day. Once you're in the habit, you'll work out longer.

Shameless plug: I work at fitness startup, MoveWith (https://www.movewith.com). We are focused on creating audio fitness classes by some of the best instructors. I know that sometimes I don't know what I should do so for me it has been really helpful to have an instructor in my ear guiding my workout, I am biased here of course ;).

I have created a free gift trial for the Hacker News community (no credit card required) to try it out. Hopefully this motivates people to get moving! https://www.movewith.com/redeemgift/hackernews :)

Re: Exercise 'keeps the mind sharp' in over-50s, study finds

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> This brought dementia by age 80 and a host of other issues As someone who suffers an immune disease that simultaneously makes me unable to do strenuous exercise, and is also independently associated with "a host of other issues", comments like this actually make me quite angry. How can you possibly claim this demonstrates cause and effect?

Why does it make you angry?

Why shouldn't it, assuming you're trying to conduct serious discourse? I find it to be a huge issue in my life, trying to communicate with people who make unverifiable or false claims is a huge waste of time, not to mention that somehow those falsehoods will be carried on from person to person.

Re: Exercise 'keeps the mind sharp' in over-50s, study finds

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This is not true at all. Google exercise and dementia. Hundreds of studies. It's the single beat cure.

Google search != scientific evidence.

Scholar Google search == scientific evidence (usually :) ).

First link from a query of "exercise dementia": "Exercise Is Associated with Reduced Risk for Incident Dementia among Persons 65 Years of Age and Older" (http://annals.org/aim/article/719427/exercise-associated-red...)

Second link: "The effects of exercise training on elderly persons with cognitive impairment and dementia: A meta-analysis" (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0003999304...) (Conclusion: "Exercise training increases fitness, physical function, cognitive function, and positive behavior in people with dementia and related cognitive impairments.")

Overall the balance of the articles seem to indicate positive effects for exercise in both preventing dementia and even improving the prospects of people with dementia. This does not mean exercise is a "magic bullet" to completely preventing or curing dementia, but it seems like exercise helps.

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I just hate it. Not that I haven't tried. I've tried running, weights, walking. It's boring, and makes me feel tired and irritable. I just want to go to bed after exercise. Not my thing.

I cannot do it (excuses excuses I know) if there is no purpose. Exercise sake I find the most boring thing in the world and just don't do it although I know I should. Excercise to get somewhere on the other hand - not a problem. When I lived a 40minute bike ride from work, I enjoyed it and looked forward to it. When the daughter lived 30 minutes walk from school would walk her to school and run back (15 minutes - too…

"I cannot do it (excuses excuses I know) if there is no purpose. Exercise sake I find the most boring thing in the world and just don't do it although I know I should."

You owe it to your friends and neighbors.

Never mind the health benefits or nicer looks or fitting into smaller clothes - you owe it to everyone around you to be able to:

- run for help

- carry a body

- move debris or pull a hose or help push a car

- (etc.)

If you have any expectation at all of being taken seriously and held as an equal by the people around you, this is the minimum set of capabilities.

Re: Exercise 'keeps the mind sharp' in over-50s, study finds

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Do not say you're too busy to exercise. Your productivity is much higher when you exercise. Do not say you're too old to exercise. The older you are, the more crucial it is. Get in the habit. Start with even just 2 intense minutes a day. Once you're in the habit, you'll work out longer.

I can't really say I'm a fan of all the imperatives. I could even choose to consider them a bit on the rude side.

Instead, choose to consider them an exhortation for your benefit.

Re: Exercise 'keeps the mind sharp' in over-50s, study finds

#180
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My problem with exercise is simply time. There are a million things I want to do and with a 10-7 work shift, I just can't do much. Staying 30 minutes longer happens easily so it's 7:30. Commuting to the gym would take another 20-30. 1h in the gym and it's 9 (or later). Commuting an hour home and it's 10. Go to supermarket, maybe cook something up and it could easily be 11 already. This leaves 1-2h max to do anything…

I started exercising when I was working full time and going to school part time. It was a lot of work and it was very stressful because neither work or school knew (or cared) about the different demands they would place on my time, so I spent most of my time putting out a fire in one part of my life knowing that another was building somewhere else.

I contrasted two semesters, one where I would tell myself "I don't have time to go to the gym, I need to stay at home and do this problem set" and another where I would tell myself basically the opposite, "I don't have time to NOT go to the gym." What I noticed was that the semesters where I made more of an effort (3-4 times a week) to go to the gym, my grades were better.

Over the years I've found that exercise sharpens the time you have left over. So sure, you spend an extra hour a day exercising but the other 23 hours are just better - you're more alert, you think better, you have more energy, you sleep better, you're less irritable.

You do you, but what I found works for me is working out in the morning. On good days, I get to the pool at 0630 and swim for 40 minutes, then go to work. As a bonus life hack, I've discovered that this combines your post-workout stupor with your early-morning-coffee stupor so you get all the stupor out of the way in the morning while you're checking e-mail and no one else is doing anything anyway.

Do this 3-4 times a week for a few months and see how you feel at the end of it.

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