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Re: Show HN: Play multiplayer and singleplayer NES games online

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Post by krapp »

nugget wrote: post #37
aplose wrote: post #21

Given the list of mirrors, it appears the author knows what they're doing is illegal. You don't have to agree with copyright law (and by all means, please try to change it!), but please don't take other people's work and build products out of it without their permission.

What if widespread non-compliance with corrupt, unfair, or antiquated laws is one of the natural means by which people apply pressure to "try to change" them?

What if the vast majority of copyright infringement and distribution has nothing at all to do with trying to change "corrupt, unfair or antiquated" laws, and everything to do with simply getting free access to content you would otherwise be required to pay for?

I mean, I'm all for copyright reform but let's not pretend there's a real civil disobedience movement at work wrt software piracy. It's a post-hoc justification at best.

Re: Show HN: Play multiplayer and singleplayer NES games online

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Post by gge »

Spoom wrote: post #30
1011_1101 wrote: post #3

Lawsuit incoming?

Typically a cease and desist letter (to both the actual author, the host, and the registrar) is enough to remove things like this. They will sue (and easily win) if the C+D is ignored though.

Yes, a likely scenario if this becomes very popular. Will have to keep in mind.

Re: Show HN: Play multiplayer and singleplayer NES games online

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Post by gge »

aplose wrote: post #21

Given the list of mirrors, it appears the author knows what they're doing is illegal. You don't have to agree with copyright law (and by all means, please try to change it!), but please don't take other people's work and build products out of it without their permission.

The mirrors are there in the case that my server goes down.

The ROMs were downloaded from emuparadise.me

Re: Show HN: Play multiplayer and singleplayer NES games online

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Post by micahbright »

wazanator wrote: post #75
micahbright wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/117 "(a)Making of Additional Copy or Adaptation by Owner of Copy.—Notwithstanding the provisions of section 106, it is not an infringement for the owner of a copy of a computer program to make or authorize the making of another copy or adaptation of that computer program provided: (1) that such a new copy or adaptation is created as an essential step in the utilization of th…

>one may make a copy of his/her original for the other because the others original may have been destroyed But then how would you prove you owned the original in the first place? I could claim to have at one point owned every Sega Genesis game but unfortunately set the box down while moving and ran it over with a truck while backing out the driveway. I of course did not keep this box of now shattered carts and I also…

> But then how would you prove you owned the original in the first place?

Are we arguing about how it ought to work now? I'm just telling you how it does work. Burden of proof is on the plaintiff, so no one has to prove that they owned a copy of anything unless for some reason the burden of proof changes at trial. You could make the claim in your example and get away with it. That's why few of these cases are substantiated.

Re: Show HN: Play multiplayer and singleplayer NES games online

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Post by [deleted] »

Kenji wrote: post #35
aplose wrote: post #21

Given the list of mirrors, it appears the author knows what they're doing is illegal. You don't have to agree with copyright law (and by all means, please try to change it!), but please don't take other people's work and build products out of it without their permission.

You're like the angry little kid who runs to the teacher when other kids have fun doing forbidden but perfectly reasonable things that harm nobody.

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Re: Show HN: Play multiplayer and singleplayer NES games online

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Post by exclusiv »

derefr wrote: post #73
exclusiv wrote: post #68

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They could design a classic bluetooth controller and sell it for cheap. I'm using the expensive, but awesome Switch Pro Controller on my Android's SNES emulator.

People have their phones with them in a lot of cases where they just can't or won't bring any accessories: at a nightclub, in the toilet, etc. If this is the majority of time when you'd want to kill time on your phone, controller-requiring games would be pointless for you. Mind you, if you can force people to bring the accessory wherever they bring the phone, the calculus shifts. The Switch essentially is a Pro Contr…

Yeah accessories are a challenge. But your comment made me think - how about a phone case that doubles as a controller? Kind of like the Surface keyboard as a phone case or protector with tactile buttons? I found a hard case called Flitchio but not sure if it made it to market and I don't like the joystick design [1]. Here's one closer to what I was thinking [2].

[1] http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/134420-consoles-beware-flitc...

[2] http://portabletech.co/

Re: Show HN: Play multiplayer and singleplayer NES games online

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Post by LocalH »

UnfalseDesign wrote: post #47
chc wrote: post #46

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If I say you are legally obligated to give me $100 if you read my comments, and link to the comment where I said it as proof that you're obligated, will you believe you're obligated to give me $100? I own the copyright on my writings, after all. Copyright holders are not gods. The idea that their word is gospel is patently false. And in the specific case of Nintendo, they are even less reliable then most in terms of…

Reading over your response, I think we are talking about two different things. You appear to be talking about copyright protection. Remember that when you purchase a game, you don't purchase the copyright. You purchase a license to play a copyrighted game on a particular medium. (That part of the game instruction manual we all skipped past as kids.) I don't have access to one of those licenses at the moment but if yo…

The right to backup stems from copyright, and on theory cannot be denied by copyright holders. DMCA'S anti-circumvention unfortunately limits this - if circumventing "access controls" is part of the path to backing up media, you may only do it 100% yourself (or acquire "illegal" tools made by others to do so), but you may not legally tell others how to do it.

Re: Show HN: Play multiplayer and singleplayer NES games online

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Post by LocalH »

celticninja wrote: post #60
aplose wrote: post #25

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> If I bought the game in 1989 I can still legally play it in digital form, yes? No, that's not how copyright works. That's a myth. In some cases you can make a backup of the game if you do it yourself. But you still can't download someone else's copy. > I'm not sure why copyright now means a company can charge me 100 times for the same product in different forms. Because copyright means the company that sold you the…

However I cannot make a backup of a NES/SNES cartridge that I legally own so this is the only method open to most people to actually obtain a digital backup of software they legally own.

There exist cart copiers, and not just the old ones. It is legally possible to dump your own games.
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