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Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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Not excusing the incident but the fuller story is a little more complicated than the police shot someone just because: "The incident happened Thursday when Sanchez's next-door neighbor, Ben Ledford, was allegedly "firing up to 100 machine gun rounds at a home across the street, killing a dog inside the house," CBS Sacramento reported. Ledford surrendered to police, but officers fired at Sanchez after they saw him sta…

Excusable in a war zone, not in a policing action. Then again a man firing 100 machine gun rounds would be almost unheard of in any other developed country, so maybe the US does qualify as a war zone.

> so maybe the US does qualify as a war zone.

It sure does. We are constantly at war against tyranny and citizen owned guns are one of our best weapons. I don't think any other "developed country" has been democratic as long as we have without lapsing back into tyranny every other century.

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

#92
post #24

This sounds very much like one side of the story. "I was essentially arrested for filming a police checkpoint in Manchester, New Hampshire" I don't want to defend the police, but that sounds like there is a lot of information missing here. Why was he filming the police? What did other people do at/to/near the checkpoint? Was he alone or part of a group or even a mob?

> Why was he filming the police? Why would this be relevant? > What did other people do at/to/near the checkpoint? Same as above: Why would this be relevant? > Was he alone or part of a group or even a mob? Could be relevant.

> Why would this be relevant?

Read other posts here about this person being a "cop chaser".

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

#93

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> I don't want to defend the police Why not? Is it now politically incorrect to give the benefit of the doubt to people who literally put their lives on the line to serve the community and keep people safe?

Because they've been wrong (and liars) before. We'd be stupid to keep trusting them.

Accusers also have been wrong (and liars) before. We'd be stupid to trust the claims of any one side without looking at the other.

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

#94
post #20

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Guy videotaping from his garage. [0] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/09/dad-im-shot-man-...

To be fair, it probably looked like a gun from a distance. The police were in the neighborhood confronting somebody with a machine gun - not smart to take an action that looks like pointing a gun in a type of situation where one side has decided they need machine guns . It's not to excuse the behavior of the police..., but if you're pointing something at the police from across the street, it's hard to see the profile…

> with a machine gun

Ugh. I wish reporters would stop embellishing stories like that with words they don't understand. An AR-15 is not in any sense a "machine gun".

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

#95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not excusing the incident but the fuller story is a little more complicated than the police shot someone just because: "The incident happened Thursday when Sanchez's next-door neighbor, Ben Ledford, was allegedly "firing up to 100 machine gun rounds at a home across the street, killing a dog inside the house," CBS Sacramento reported. Ledford surrendered to police, but officers fired at Sanchez after they saw him sta…

Excusable in a war zone, not in a policing action. Then again a man firing 100 machine gun rounds would be almost unheard of in any other developed country, so maybe the US does qualify as a war zone.

I think the fact that this us unheard of makes it even more excusable. I don't think that the police had faced this kind of sitiation too often.

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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post #71

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Absolutely yes, in this case. I'd prefer the officers went home to their families. If you want to go around pointing your phone at everything, you need to stop and think about the consequences.

Genuinely confused about this morality. Why is it more correct that the officers "went home to their families" than that this innocent guy died in front of his? I mean, I can understand arguing that sometimes protective violence is necessary and accepting that tragedies happen. But you're literally taking a side here and saying that police lives are more important than ours. Why?

You're making this argument with full information. Police acting at the scene didn't have this luxury.

It is very easy to tell what others should have done in a situation that they perceive as life and death.

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

#98
post #4

Ah, the old "contempt of cop" charge. If taxpayers knew or cared how much money is wasted by police acting macho and lording it over citizens even to the extent of violating the law to do so, there might be some actual change in this area.

No they wouldn't. They see headlines occasionally about the cost overruns of the military (F35!) contracts and they don't do anything.

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

#99

Filming police isn't against the law in the US, so that wasn't the charge as the clickbait title states. If the guy wanted to be forthright he could have listed the complaint(s) that are on his summons instead of making up a different scenario. This guy's obviously looking for trouble; filiming police for no good reason; getting himself arrested for no good reason; then going online and being deceptive about it to ge…

Disorderly is code for contempt of cop

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

#100

Filming police isn't against the law in the US, so that wasn't the charge as the clickbait title states. If the guy wanted to be forthright he could have listed the complaint(s) that are on his summons instead of making up a different scenario. This guy's obviously looking for trouble; filiming police for no good reason; getting himself arrested for no good reason; then going online and being deceptive about it to ge…

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