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Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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Post by guiomie »

draugadrotten wrote: post #13

This sounds very much like one side of the story. "I was essentially arrested for filming a police checkpoint in Manchester, New Hampshire" I don't want to defend the police, but that sounds like there is a lot of information missing here. Why was he filming the police? What did other people do at/to/near the checkpoint? Was he alone or part of a group or even a mob?

I dont understand all the downvotes. Just a few comments up someone talked about a cop firing on someone filming, which sounds awful, but when added with context (there had been 100's of rounds shot from a machine gun earlier), seems understandable. I agree this is only one side of the story, and more info would be great.

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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Post by ue_ »

throwaway999b wrote: post #30
draugadrotten wrote: post #13

This sounds very much like one side of the story. "I was essentially arrested for filming a police checkpoint in Manchester, New Hampshire" I don't want to defend the police, but that sounds like there is a lot of information missing here. Why was he filming the police? What did other people do at/to/near the checkpoint? Was he alone or part of a group or even a mob?

> I don't want to defend the police Why not? Is it now politically incorrect to give the benefit of the doubt to people who literally put their lives on the line to serve the community and keep people safe?

The police are agents of the state. I do not trust the state, so why should I trust their bullies?

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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Post by musgrove »

Filming police isn't against the law in the US, so that wasn't the charge as the clickbait title states. If the guy wanted to be forthright he could have listed the complaint(s) that are on his summons instead of making up a different scenario. This guy's obviously looking for trouble; filiming police for no good reason; getting himself arrested for no good reason; then going online and being deceptive about it to get support for himself by stirring up more trouble. It's no wonder he's such a frustrated person.

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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Post by EGreg »

maxerickson wrote: post #48
EGreg wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. The right to bear arms has consequences for everyone, even those people who do not exercise this right. If police didn't have a good statistical basis to assume a random person might be armed, they'd behave differently. That explains the main difference with Europe.

US Police don't have a good statistical basis to assume that a given encounter will require deadly force.

Oh really... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_guns_per...

I bet you will find a correlation between the rankings on this list and those of police brutality.

That's the price paid for right to bear arms.

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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Post by dustingetz »

> I was essentially arrested for filming a police checkpoint ... (my video was seized, but experienced correspondents bring back up, as I did, we had several people apart from the nearly 20 activists protesting the checkpoint with video cameras)

Emphasis mine. What happened exactly? There's more context gone unmentioned and he knows it. All one-sided stories sound open-and-shut.

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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Post by dewitt »

ajross wrote: post #47
dewitt wrote: post #29

Seems incredibly ill-advised to be publicly discussing what is sure to result in legal action. Even as one-sided as this is, the best he can do is incriminate himself. The other side will wait until due process requires them to disclose their case. At best he's trying to rally opinion (why?), at worst he's just seeking attention, and either way he's just making things worse on himself. As a CEO he just associated his…

Or maybe he thinks the issue is important and the imperative to discuss it outweighs personal legal risk and association of his company with "poor" decision making. (Given the content at ThinkPenguin's site, I'm not sure that the target market agrees with you about "poor", btw). I don't know anything about this issue, to be clear. But the fact that you personally don't like to see stories about police misconduct does…

Good point about ThinkPenguin's target demographic. I think you're right—I presumed too much about his business without looking first.

(Sorry I upset you, btw.)

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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Post by bougiefever »

swsieber wrote: post #44
sambull wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Guy videotaping from his garage. [0] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/09/dad-im-shot-man-...

To be fair, it probably looked like a gun from a distance. The police were in the neighborhood confronting somebody with a machine gun - not smart to take an action that looks like pointing a gun in a type of situation where one side has decided they need machine guns . It's not to excuse the behavior of the police..., but if you're pointing something at the police from across the street, it's hard to see the profile…

I think it's fair, if you're going to use deadly force, to first find out with a much, much greater degree of certainty, that there actually is a weapon, and if so that they actually are in danger. Too many cowardly and scared police shooting at shadows and noises.

"It's not to excuse the behavior of the police.."

And yes, your comment is excusing the behavior of the police. Just saying that you didn't just excuse their behavior doesn't mean that you didn't just do exactly that.

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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Post by bonzini »

praneshp wrote: post #58
ItendToDisagree wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shoot first! Ask questions later! mirite?!

Absolutely yes, in this case. I'd prefer the officers went home to their families. If you want to go around pointing your phone at everything, you need to stop and think about the consequences.

Assuming it's necessary to shoot at all, aiming to kill is even more rarely the right thing to do.

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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Post by vidarh »

richardwhiuk wrote: post #25
adamnemecek wrote: post #11

Why are the us cops such raging douche nozzles? After every interaction I've had with a cop in the us, I left hoping they get shot soon. I've never seen cops in other countries be like this.

US police receive large amounts of hand down military equipment and are routinely armed. Some US citizens are routinely armed, so the potential for lethal harm is much greater in any scenario. US domestic policy has encouraged the police to be at war (vs crime, drugs etc). US domestic policy has encouraged a criminalization of large amounts of petty stuff (truancy / three strikes policies) which encourages this. This…

> US police are highly trained to stop a criminal with force, and rarely focus on de-escalation.

I think this has the largest part of the blame, even though I agree with a lot of the rest you wrote too.

I live in the UK. We called the police in conjunction with an ongoing assault near our house. About five minutes later there were at least 8 police officers on the scene, slowly and calmly surrounding the suspect. Nobody ever raised a hand, and he quickly surrendered.

It always stands out to me in stark contrast whenever I see reports about US police.

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