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But it wouldn't be nice. It would be terrible for everyone involved, Apple, Uber, Uber/Apple customers.
The immediate effect would be unpleasant for users. Longer term I think it is harder to say.
Uber CEO Plays with Fire
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Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire
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No. But Pence was definitely not talking about achievable political goals. He was just flatly denying that certain things happened. Clinton wasn't gaslighting; she was just espousing the (correct, as far as I can tell) idea that in order to be a successful leader, you have to convince different sides that you believe different things, even if those sides are talking to each other to figure out what you believe. That…
>Clinton wasn't gaslighting; she was just espousing the (correct, as far as I can tell) idea that in order to be a successful leader, you have to convince different sides that you believe different things Not sure how well that worked for her. See "Poll: Just 12 percent of Dems see Clinton as 'honest and trustworthy'" and similar headlines. Plus losing to a pretty bad opponent.
Meanwhile, her opponent is almost a parody of the stereotype of the politician who lies about everything to get votes, and people just assume he's playing 11-dimensional poker and his actual goal is whatever they want to think his actual goal is (and this includes both people who agree with him and people who disagree).
Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire
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I worked for a company that nearly acquired unroll.me. At the time, which was over three years ago, they had kept a copy of every single email of yours that you sent or received while a part of their service. Those emails were kept in a series of poorly secured S3 buckets. A large part of Slice buying unroll.me was for access to those email archives. Specifically, they wanted to look for keyword trends and for receip…
There is a phrase which I live by - If it's free, you're the product.
Too often, it's used to shut down all conversations around corporate malfeasance re:privacy, so the industry doesn't get better, we all just move on to the next big story. And victims are blamed and shamed. "Your fault for using a free service, what did you expect?" vs. "This is unacceptable behavior, let's force a change."
Not to mention so many don't understand free vs. non-free. Are there ads? Are there optional purchases that keep the company going? As someone else mentioned here, unroll.me showed ads, which would lead users to believe their usage was being subsidized by those ads - and Slice's About page on its web site says nothing about using unroll.me as a data source, it claims to use its own shopping app.
Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire
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I'll quote what I said elsewhere: > I haven't been a part of that company for several years now, and did not have any legal agreements or first party relationship with either of the companies named above, and since the deal closed since with Slice it would be difficult for anyone to allege damages. And if all this disappears, then yes, someone did attack me legally over it. I don't like the business culture that has…
I totally agree. But , and this is a very big but: companies would no longer be open to potential acquisition partners during the due diligence phase of an acquisition if professionals in this space would talk publicly (or even at all) about what they find. I'm seriously conflicted about this because I too have seen some extremely horrible stuff in the last couple of years, some of which I'm quite sure would rock the…
Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire
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I worked for a company that nearly acquired unroll.me. At the time, which was over three years ago, they had kept a copy of every single email of yours that you sent or received while a part of their service. Those emails were kept in a series of poorly secured S3 buckets. A large part of Slice buying unroll.me was for access to those email archives. Specifically, they wanted to look for keyword trends and for receip…
situations like this is what makes it really hard for others in this space to survive. I run https://clean.email (and we don't store/retain/sell any data, just charge people to use it) and the biggest issue we have is lack of trust because of news like this. although every day someone would still email with a question "why you are not free like unroll.me".. sigh.
Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire
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Wow I think this unroll.me thing is the real scandal here. I am an unroll.me user, but had no idea they sell user data to companies this way. Their whole value proposition is to help people control their own privacy and now I kind of feel betrayed..
I worked for a company that nearly acquired unroll.me. At the time, which was over three years ago, they had kept a copy of every single email of yours that you sent or received while a part of their service. Those emails were kept in a series of poorly secured S3 buckets. A large part of Slice buying unroll.me was for access to those email archives. Specifically, they wanted to look for keyword trends and for receip…
Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire
#477Buried lede here: "They spent much of their energy one-upping rivals like Lyft. Uber devoted teams to so-called competitive intelligence, purchasing data from an analytics service called Slice Intelligence. Using an email digest service it owns named Unroll.me, Slice collected its customers’ emailed Lyft receipts from their inboxes and sold the anonymized data to Uber. Uber used the data as a proxy for the health of…
Please delete my account and all my data.
Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire
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Wow I think this unroll.me thing is the real scandal here. I am an unroll.me user, but had no idea they sell user data to companies this way. Their whole value proposition is to help people control their own privacy and now I kind of feel betrayed..
I worked for a company that nearly acquired unroll.me. At the time, which was over three years ago, they had kept a copy of every single email of yours that you sent or received while a part of their service. Those emails were kept in a series of poorly secured S3 buckets. A large part of Slice buying unroll.me was for access to those email archives. Specifically, they wanted to look for keyword trends and for receip…
Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire
#479Earlier quoted context omitted.
situations like this is what makes it really hard for others in this space to survive. I run https://clean.email (and we don't store/retain/sell any data, just charge people to use it) and the biggest issue we have is lack of trust because of news like this. although every day someone would still email with a question "why you are not free like unroll.me".. sigh.
Well now you have an excellent value proposition you can point to for why you aren't free.
Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire
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But the business model was proven by Uber.
Not really disagreeing with you because I don't think the business model has been proven yet. Neither company is profitable and both are still powered by fat stacks of venture capital. How the unit economics will pan out once that wears off isn't clear to me yet. It's also not that black and white as the Lyft team built Zimride (2007) prior to starting Lyft before Uber existed (2009). Even with that Uber focused on t…