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If they sell your receipt data to Uber, who else might they sell it to? An insurance company? A hedge fund? Your bank?
>anonymized It would be much bigger news if they were selling data that could be used against the consumers on an individual basis.
Buried lede here: "They spent much of their energy one-upping rivals like Lyft. Uber devoted teams to so-called competitive intelligence, purchasing data from an analytics service called Slice Intelligence. Using an email digest service it owns named Unroll.me, Slice collected its customers’ emailed Lyft receipts from their inboxes and sold the anonymized data to Uber. Uber used the data as a proxy for the health of…
This jumped out at me, too. Here's how Unroll.me describes their service: Clean up your inbox Instantly see a list of all your subscription emails. Unsubscribe easily from whatever you don’t want. It's not clear at all that they are reading people's emails and selling the data.
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Uber has millions of people who use and love the service. Yanking the app without notice doesn't just punish the company it punishes those users. Working with Uber to get the issue fixed without punishing innocent bystanders is good policy.
Hence my description of the move as pragmatic. The thing you leave out is that inflicting the inconvenience on the users would have increased the chances of the users understanding what Uber had been doing.
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Hence my description of the move as pragmatic. The thing you leave out is that inflicting the inconvenience on the users would have increased the chances of the users understanding what Uber had been doing.
Why would most users care that Uber was slightly evading some privacy rules to prevent drivers from executing fraudulent rides?
Look at my first comment. I said "It'd be nice". It wasn't a comment about what would be good for Apple or bad for Uber or anything like that, it was just a remark about how I see it.
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Phones can change ownership too, so even if you can identify the phone it is dangerous to assume that you have identified a person.
If you can buy a new phone for $5 and the referral bonus is $20, there's $15 arbitrage to be made just by buying up as many phones as you can. So I think their goal is not so much about identifying people, but identifying devices in order to prevent this loophole.
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Wow I think this unroll.me thing is the real scandal here. I am an unroll.me user, but had no idea they sell user data to companies this way. Their whole value proposition is to help people control their own privacy and now I kind of feel betrayed..
From their own site: "Unroll.Me is a free service ", emphasis added. If it's free for you, you're the product.
Have you ever read HN on a mobile device?
From the article, explained: At the time, Uber was dealing with widespread account fraud in places like China, where tricksters bought stolen iPhones that were erased of their memory and resold. Some Uber drivers there would then create dozens of fake email addresses to sign up for new Uber rider accounts attached to each phone, and request rides from those phones, which they would then accept. Since Uber was handing…
This really doesn't match up with how the conversation/outrage is playing out on Twitter right now. People seem to be interpreting this as "Uber continues to track your location after you have deleted the app," when what really happened seemed to be "If you delete Uber and then reinstall it on the same phone, Uber knows that it's the same phone." See for example this Tweet, with hundreds of retweets and lots of verif…
http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/12/01/503...