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Went from being a pilot to an FB engineer eh?
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Facebook: greater than 15% of employees are H1Bs
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Re: Facebook: greater than 15% of employees are H1Bs
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
The thing is, Indians and Chinese are fleeing their countries because it's so much worse there. If life was better in their countries, they would stay. But it's not. So instead of trying to help their fellow citizens, they run away and make Americans pay the cost.
"pay the cost": People are coming to America to work for American companies, make American goods, pay American taxes. A job is not a handout, it's (supposed to be, at least) beneficial to both sides of the relationship.
>"pay the cost": People are coming to America to work for American companies, make American goods, pay American taxes.
The cost is the difference between an American getting a job and someone who has absolutely no relationship with America getting a job. I care about my fellow citizens. I want them to succeed.
Re: Facebook: greater than 15% of employees are H1Bs
#83I don't see what makes workers born in America more important than workers born in any other country. Everybody should get the same chances.
As an American, workers born in the USA are more important to me. I care more about my neighbor's employment status, safety, and happiness than the family down the street. I care more about the guy down the street than the family across town... etc etc etc... I care more about some family in some US state that I'll never visit than a family over in India. The closer they are to me, the more their success and problems…
Sort of like, "As a white person, white people are more important to me."?
Do you think it is permissible for your town to pass a law that requires your neighborhood coffee shop to preferentially hire a barista from your town?
Let me quote the parable of Sam and Marvin by the philosopher Michael Huemer to explain why I don't think your reasoning works.
Excerpted from - http://spot.colorado.edu/~huemer/immigration.htm
"Sam coercively prevented Marvin from reaching the local marketplace, on the grounds that doing so was necessary to prevent his daughter from having to pay a higher than normal price for her bread. This action seems unjustified. Would Sam succeed in defending his behavior if he pointed out that, as a father, he has special obligations to his daughter, and that these imply that he must give greater weight to her interests than to the interests of non-family members? Certainly the premise is true—if anything, parents have even stronger and clearer duties to protect the interests of their offspring than a government has to protect its citizens’ interests. But this does not negate the rights of non-family members not to be subjected to harmful coercion. One’s special duties to one’s offspring imply that, if one must choose between giving food to one’s own child and giving food to a non-family member, one should generally give the food to one’s own child. But they do not imply that one may use force to stop non-family members from obtaining food, in order to procure modest economic advantages for one’s own children."
Re: Facebook: greater than 15% of employees are H1Bs
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." I will always put my fellow Americans first.
Why is the sentiment "I will always put my fellow whites first" bad but the sentiment you espouse not?
What's wrong with caring about your fellow taxpaying citizens who's vote might affect you more than someone that's possibly displacing them?
If you really think everyone is so equal, then why is it okay to put your family first?
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
As an American, workers born in the USA are more important to me. I care more about my neighbor's employment status, safety, and happiness than the family down the street. I care more about the guy down the street than the family across town... etc etc etc... I care more about some family in some US state that I'll never visit than a family over in India. The closer they are to me, the more their success and problems…
Sort of like, "As a white person, white people are more important to me."? Do you think it is permissible for your town to pass a law that requires your neighborhood coffee shop to preferentially hire a barista from your town? Let me quote the parable of Sam and Marvin by the philosopher Michael Huemer to explain why I don't think your reasoning works. Excerpted from - http://spot.colorado.edu/~huemer/immigration.htm…
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Re: Facebook: greater than 15% of employees are H1Bs
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
"pay the cost": People are coming to America to work for American companies, make American goods, pay American taxes. A job is not a handout, it's (supposed to be, at least) beneficial to both sides of the relationship.
>"pay the cost": People are coming to America to work for American companies, make American goods, pay American taxes. The cost is the difference between an American getting a job and someone who has absolutely no relationship with America getting a job. I care about my fellow citizens. I want them to succeed.
> absolutely no relationship with America getting a job
Once they have a job, they, uh, have a relationship, don't they? At the very least with their new friends at the IRS.
Re: Facebook: greater than 15% of employees are H1Bs
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is the sentiment "I will always put my fellow whites first" bad but the sentiment you espouse not?
What's wrong with caring about your fellow taxpaying citizens who's vote might affect you more than someone that's possibly displacing them? If you really think everyone is so equal, then why is it okay to put your family first?
I don't think everyone is equal. I just think that everyone has certain negative rights that you must respect. For instance, you are not allowed to murder a stranger just because it accrues modest economic advantages to your family members.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is the sentiment "I will always put my fellow whites first" bad but the sentiment you espouse not?
What's wrong with caring about your fellow taxpaying citizens who's vote might affect you more than someone that's possibly displacing them? If you really think everyone is so equal, then why is it okay to put your family first?
I don't have any problem with you caring more for your fellow citizens. I encourage you to do that. I just don't want you to prevent your other fellow citizens from hiring me if they want to because I will displace people you care about.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
College grads churned out by UW seem just as drone-like as H1B's.
That's the point. The H1B program should bring the best and brightest to the US due to a lack of skills and or availability in the high skilled areas. Drone work is by definition not high skilled areas. Therefore the H1B folk should not be here. Those jobs would then go to the drone college kids, or to some outsourcing firm. That is the intent of the law.
Good point.
The H1B visa people at my office are some of the top performing people in our office in India.
Re: Facebook: greater than 15% of employees are H1Bs
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
but these h1b holders live in your town, and possibly your next door neighbor. gotcha!
I care less about them than they natives they displaced by getting visas handed out for reasons other than their intended purpose. I know my next door neighbors. Not H1B holders. Don't be an troll.
the core of your argument does not make sense. You state your level of empathy is geographically based, per the individual in question. We're not talking about outsourcing to off shore. We're talking about H1B visas.