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Whistleblower uncovers London police hacking of journalists and protestors

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Re: Whistleblower uncovers London police hacking of journalists and protestors

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Mate, the battle may have been lost but the war never ends.

This level of discourse is very embarrassing for HN.

Yes, your comments are. Clearly we needed reminding and the point needed to be underscored.

Re: Whistleblower uncovers London police hacking of journalists and protestors

#32

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The only time people in power make concessions is when there is a credible threat to them maintaining that power.

If you can suggest one?

History is filled with suggestions.

Re: Whistleblower uncovers London police hacking of journalists and protestors

#33

Outrageous. I worry we in the USA are going this direction too.

Have you seen the FBI files on people like MLK and Malcom X?

In fact this goes as far back as the 19th century if not more, with workers rights activists, human rights activists and others. And doesn't stop at collecting data.

Re: Whistleblower uncovers London police hacking of journalists and protestors

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If it's futile now, just wait until they grow even stronger. It's now or never.

And do what exactly? Go to a protest? It doesn't work and never has; most people are content just by reading The Daily Hate. They already won.

It works; it's just that the people fighting will be the one paying the worst price and getting the least benefits. Benefits will then go to the people than not only did nothing, but actively made things harder to fight.

Life is unfair that way.

Re: Whistleblower uncovers London police hacking of journalists and protestors

#36
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And do what exactly? Go to a protest? It doesn't work and never has; most people are content just by reading The Daily Hate. They already won.

> It doesn't work and never has; You'd be surprised. Maybe read some history. Except if you mean: it doesn't work to guarantee an utopia or even that the things/rights/etc won by protesters are secured for eternity. Then again, nothing does.

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Re: Whistleblower uncovers London police hacking of journalists and protestors

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London? Why does anyone have an anticipation of privacy in the UK? This is the city with police cameras on every block, surveillance vans, and a prime minister who literally called the privacy of encryption evil.

London doesn't have "blocks".

Surveillance vans are a myth.

Police cameras? Sure there is plenty of CCTV but most of its is privately owned and operated.

Re: Whistleblower uncovers London police hacking of journalists and protestors

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Most British subjects would probably want their police to be subject to the law, the same as all other subjects rather than running a criminal conspiracy. If the law is inconvenient or wrong, they can lobby to change it, same as everyone else. Break it, and they really ought to be in jail, same as anyone else.

> Most British subjects would probably want their police to be subject to the law, the same as all other subjects I'm now 38 years old and have seen little evidence to support your statement, either in the UK or elsewhere. Most people seem _totally_ okay with members of their ruling class being drone-murdering, tax-thieving, law-breaking, crotch-grabbing assholes.

You forgot: pedophiles.
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