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Whistleblower uncovers London police hacking of journalists and protestors

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Re: Whistleblower uncovers London police hacking of journalists and protestors

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Post by sien »

Darthy wrote: post #7

This is utterly unacceptable. Time for the electorate to put their foot down and set an example by disbanding the entire force and replace it with a new one. But guess what the electorate will say? "They only came for the Socialists. I'm not a Socialist". Sad times.

The intelligence services have been doing this forever in most countries. If you don't know about it you're not paying attention.

Here is PJ O'Rourke writing about this in the 1960s in the US.

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=WEmN1ZKrYpsC&lpg=PA238&...

People don't just don't care that much.

It is worth worrying about though. With the NSA and computer surviellance we've created a 'turn-key tyranny'. And people have been worrying about that since at least the 1970s: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/04/influential-senator-w...

Re: Whistleblower uncovers London police hacking of journalists and protestors

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Post by justinjlynn »

andy_ppp wrote: post #17
Kenji wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's futile now, just wait until they grow even stronger. It's now or never.

And do what exactly? Go to a protest? It doesn't work and never has; most people are content just by reading The Daily Hate. They already won.

Mate, the battle may have been lost but the war never ends.

Re: Whistleblower uncovers London police hacking of journalists and protestors

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Post by alexbeloi »

andy_ppp wrote: post #17
Kenji wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's futile now, just wait until they grow even stronger. It's now or never.

And do what exactly? Go to a protest? It doesn't work and never has; most people are content just by reading The Daily Hate. They already won.

The only time people in power make concessions is when there is a credible threat to them maintaining that power.

Re: Whistleblower uncovers London police hacking of journalists and protestors

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Post by andy_ppp »

alexbeloi wrote: post #23
andy_ppp wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And do what exactly? Go to a protest? It doesn't work and never has; most people are content just by reading The Daily Hate. They already won.

The only time people in power make concessions is when there is a credible threat to them maintaining that power.

If you can suggest one?

Re: Whistleblower uncovers London police hacking of journalists and protestors

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Post by fredley »

Darthy wrote: post #7

This is utterly unacceptable. Time for the electorate to put their foot down and set an example by disbanding the entire force and replace it with a new one. But guess what the electorate will say? "They only came for the Socialists. I'm not a Socialist". Sad times.

Not "Socialists", "Saboteurs": https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9wUH7PXkAUypzc.jpg

Re: Whistleblower uncovers London police hacking of journalists and protestors

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Post by easytiger »

justinjlynn wrote: post #22
andy_ppp wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And do what exactly? Go to a protest? It doesn't work and never has; most people are content just by reading The Daily Hate. They already won.

Mate, the battle may have been lost but the war never ends.

This level of discourse is very embarrassing for HN.

Re: Whistleblower uncovers London police hacking of journalists and protestors

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Post by coldtea »

andy_ppp wrote: post #17
Kenji wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's futile now, just wait until they grow even stronger. It's now or never.

And do what exactly? Go to a protest? It doesn't work and never has; most people are content just by reading The Daily Hate. They already won.

>It doesn't work and never has;

You'd be surprised. Maybe read some history. Except if you mean: it doesn't work to guarantee an utopia or even that the things/rights/etc won by protesters are secured for eternity. Then again, nothing does.

Re: Whistleblower uncovers London police hacking of journalists and protestors

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Post by coldtea »

easytiger wrote: post #28
justinjlynn wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mate, the battle may have been lost but the war never ends.

This level of discourse is very embarrassing for HN.

I actually find this comment very embarrassing.
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