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Facebook Announces React Fiber, a Rewrite of Its React Framework

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Re: Facebook Announces React Fiber, a Rewrite of Its React Framework

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post #102

Great. I was waiting for React to stabilize before I learned it. I've been cleverly waiting since 2006 to learn jquery. Will start next year.

> Great. I was waiting for React to stabilize before I learned it. But once it's stable, it's outdated.

It's been stable for more than a year now.

Re: Facebook Announces React Fiber, a Rewrite of Its React Framework

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I would love HN to provide an easy way to see where the reply thread to this first comment ends. Some js might enable that. Basic html/css - I think no.

It's that [-] button next to the username above each comment. It collapses all the cascading comments. It is enabled via JS. If you disable JS, then it disappears.

Thanks, I didn't see it

Re: Facebook Announces React Fiber, a Rewrite of Its React Framework

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And I would love if my 2001 Honda Accord was compatible with Tesla's autopilot, but I understand it is not a realistic expectation. I'm not sure why you'd expect the web to be a. Mostly text and b. able to render easily on obsolete devices. The web is becoming a robust application delivery platform. That is so, so awesome. Most people do not want to be stuck with shitty looking, text only websites. Moving the platfor…

They may be robust but the user experience still sucks. JS heavy web sites are unresponsive and turn my 3 year old MBP into a vacuum cleaner. Facebook is the best example. I can barely load the web site without the fans spinning. Firefox can't handle it at all. It is unusable for me.

Ubuntu on chromebook user reporting. I cant complain much on the latest chrome even with my 2 gigs of ram and much less powerful processor.

Re: Facebook Announces React Fiber, a Rewrite of Its React Framework

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post #159

Does it the Frontend ecosystem has yet another new framework? Do we have to retire the old one and learn the new one all over again?

This is much like the Glimmer announcement. They're simply optimizing and refactoring the rendering engine, with the API not changing, unlike with Angular.

Re: Facebook Announces React Fiber, a Rewrite of Its React Framework

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I admire your exceptional work cataloguing these resources. However, just one look at that giant horde of links is, to me, a perfect demonstration of why the front-end development ecosystem is way out of control. Its amazing to me that the autoconf/automake/libtool system for making write-once-run-everywhere *nix applications is downright simple by today's standards. Every year the hot libraries change, the build too…

That's because noone really, truly, honestly want to RTFM of a given stack, library, etc. It's more fun to roll your own or to pick up a new one. I mean, in how may ways can you organize code that manipulate a DOM tree, pull data, massage data, and update the DOM tree? Well, the more the merrier :)

I fear that this comment embodies more than a little bit of truth.

Re: Facebook Announces React Fiber, a Rewrite of Its React Framework

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post #37

React will die by the weight of the frameworks and libraries that have duplicated effort and created more confusion and divide amongst the developer community.

If you don't understand how it works and how it can be combined with tools like Redux to create a highly debuggable and predictable app, it certainly looks like a bunch of newfangled framework stuff for the sake of nothing.

Re: Facebook Announces React Fiber, a Rewrite of Its React Framework

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So they have created a kind of map/reduce system to distribute computation over a tree, except everything still runs in the same Javascript main thread.

Not at all. Fiber is a method of divvying up the work the reconciler is doing so the main thread can process higher priority updates ahead of ones that matter less. There are other benefits, but this is the central one.

Re: Facebook Announces React Fiber, a Rewrite of Its React Framework

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And I would love if my 2001 Honda Accord was compatible with Tesla's autopilot, but I understand it is not a realistic expectation. I'm not sure why you'd expect the web to be a. Mostly text and b. able to render easily on obsolete devices. The web is becoming a robust application delivery platform. That is so, so awesome. Most people do not want to be stuck with shitty looking, text only websites. Moving the platfor…

They may be robust but the user experience still sucks. JS heavy web sites are unresponsive and turn my 3 year old MBP into a vacuum cleaner. Facebook is the best example. I can barely load the web site without the fans spinning. Firefox can't handle it at all. It is unusable for me.

This experience is not unique to the web, from what I've seen. Apps that aren't well made can easily drop frames on a 3 year old iPhone.
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