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UK Prime Minister Theresa May announces intention to hold general election

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Re: UK Prime Minister Theresa May announces intention to hold general election

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

timrichard wrote: post #131
Slamchunk wrote: post #27

Worst possible timing, who do I vote for? I live in a tory safe seat currently.

I guess you're referring to a viable opposition contender where you live, but I'm planning on supporting the most agreeable independent candidate I can find. No practical chance of them getting in, but it's an option when you think it's important to vote anyway for philosophical or historical reasons. Especially in constituencies where you could pin a red or blue rosette on a donkey, and it would still get elected.

I've often though the best policy in a safe seat is to vote for the opposition, no matter who you support. It just makes the seat slightly less safe and hence your MP a bit more responsive to their constituents needs.

Re: UK Prime Minister Theresa May announces intention to hold general election

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Post by wsc981 »

hazza1 wrote: post #97
wsc981 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the UK will be fine, post Brexit, as the UK is a very important trading partner for The Netherlands, Denmark & Ireland. These countries don't want harsh punishments for the UK (as Brussels seems intent on) and they want little trade barriers: http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/792782/EU-rebellion-Bloc...

You can't use the Express as a source, it's not a creditable newspaper and has it's own agenda here.

Well, Reuters also had an article on the meeting and the goals, if you prefer that source: http://mobile.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-diplomacy-id...

Re: UK Prime Minister Theresa May announces intention to hold general election

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Post by MatthiasP »

wsc981 wrote: post #57
headmelted wrote: post #16

Actually this is just good business for the Tories, and I've long expected it. The opposition is in disarray under Corbyn, and our prime minister has never won an election. This is as easy a victory as Theresa May will ever be able to bank on, and legitimises her leadership in the eyes of a large section of the public. She can also claim (maybe rightly so) that she has the undisputed majority support of the public fo…

I think the UK will be fine, post Brexit, as the UK is a very important trading partner for The Netherlands, Denmark & Ireland. These countries don't want harsh punishments for the UK (as Brussels seems intent on) and they want little trade barriers: http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/792782/EU-rebellion-Bloc...

The desire for a trade war with the UK is not exactly high on the continent, especially considering the debt crisis is still looming over Brussels.

The UK will probably get a deal like Norway and will be better off without Brussels.

But then many other EU countries will ask: Who actually needs the political union?

Re: UK Prime Minister Theresa May announces intention to hold general election

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Post by GordonS »

skdotdan wrote: post #51

Some people criticize May whatever she does. If she calls election, because she wants to destroy opposition or because the election will cause more political instability, and if she doesn't, because she is afraid of democracy or something. Honestly, this makes no sense at all.

I criticise her because of her strong authoritarian views and desire to turn the UK into an Orwelian nightmare...

Re: UK Prime Minister Theresa May announces intention to hold general election

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Post by smcl »

tehwalrus wrote: post #49
headmelted wrote: post #16

Actually this is just good business for the Tories, and I've long expected it. The opposition is in disarray under Corbyn, and our prime minister has never won an election. This is as easy a victory as Theresa May will ever be able to bank on, and legitimises her leadership in the eyes of a large section of the public. She can also claim (maybe rightly so) that she has the undisputed majority support of the public fo…

Vote Lib Dem. Seriously. I am a candidate in very north london, we're all organised for this possibility.

Why vote Lib Dem? If the last election turned out slightly differently and the Conservatives still needed the coalition, I bet they'd be out happily singing the praises of Brexit to us all, and walking back their campaign promises. They previously always had a "were not like Labour/Con" cred, but the coalition showed that this simply is not true

Re: UK Prime Minister Theresa May announces intention to hold general election

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Post by willyt »

sir_throwaway wrote: post #124
hazza1 wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't use the Express as a source, it's not a creditable newspaper and has it's own agenda here.

Yet the main article is from The Guardian...

Your comment is over simplistic because many reputable news outlets are reporting the hard observable fact that a general election has been called. Therefore the fact that the Guardian is a source for this is irrelevant. A single newspaper, The Daily Express is reporting comments made by a single Danish MEP, who could be from some mad fringe party for all we know, as if this is the official policy of four nation states. Therefore the Express article is mostly speculation based on a secondary source of information; a person whose personal agenda and relation to the Danish Government's official foreign policy is unknown.

Re: UK Prime Minister Theresa May announces intention to hold general election

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Post by barrkel »

smcl wrote: post #185
tehwalrus wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vote Lib Dem. Seriously. I am a candidate in very north london, we're all organised for this possibility.

Why vote Lib Dem? If the last election turned out slightly differently and the Conservatives still needed the coalition, I bet they'd be out happily singing the praises of Brexit to us all, and walking back their campaign promises. They previously always had a "were not like Labour/Con" cred, but the coalition showed that this simply is not true

Brexit is more important than college fees.

Re: UK Prime Minister Theresa May announces intention to hold general election

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Post by barrkel »

gtirloni wrote: post #69
gideonparanoid wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of that grass roots support is young & as a result has much less weight for voting, unfortunately.

Unless older people's votes get counted twice, how does the young have less weight for voting? As an outsider, the news that got to me was that older people simply showed up to vote (and others didn't).

Voting probability is lower.

Re: UK Prime Minister Theresa May announces intention to hold general election

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Post by barrkel »

MatthiasP wrote: post #183
wsc981 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the UK will be fine, post Brexit, as the UK is a very important trading partner for The Netherlands, Denmark & Ireland. These countries don't want harsh punishments for the UK (as Brussels seems intent on) and they want little trade barriers: http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/792782/EU-rebellion-Bloc...

The desire for a trade war with the UK is not exactly high on the continent, especially considering the debt crisis is still looming over Brussels. The UK will probably get a deal like Norway and will be better off without Brussels. But then many other EU countries will ask: Who actually needs the political union?

The UK won't get a deal like Norway because UK politics prohibits it; it's not politically acceptable to continue to send billions to the EU after leaving. If UK were to contribute as much to the EU as Norway per capita, it would be over 2 billion EUR per year.

Re: UK Prime Minister Theresa May announces intention to hold general election

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Post by tspiteri »

Accacin wrote: post #61
bogle wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, 'cause you did such a sterling job last time?

Yeah they did, in my eyes they did a great job stopping Tories doing too much damage. I'm also one who was affected by their tuition u-turn also but I decided to get over it.

And it is a bit ironic that New Labour introduced tuition fees, the Tories were the coalition partner that wanted to increase them, but it is the Lib Dems who caught all the flak.
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